Plymouth father is arrested for using belt on son, 12

Patriot Ledger ^ | April 30, 2005 | TAMARA RACE

[Danae]

You know what?

Better a few whacks with a belt at 12 than what the WORLD will spank you with when you are 18 if you don't straighten up and fly right.
Some lessons are painful, but for damned sure, it is a LOT less painful to get that lesson early in life from a parent that cares than from the rest of the world that will take you for everything you have and beat the living tar out of you and your family later.

Kids need to know early in life that there are lines that are not to be crossed and there are good reasons for it. If a spanking helps then get that lesson before they get really hurt, then you have done the child a service, not a harm. Saving your kid from future stupid actions due to a lack of thought or fore-thought is a parents JOB and DUTY. NOT doing it would be abuse of a child. And an abuse of his or her family. There are consequences in this world, and almost all of them are worse than three light whacks with a belt.

[johnb838]

I was taught a belt is better than the hand because the hand should always be used for giving love, and punishment should be done with an inanimate object.

[johnb838]

I was schooled with a strap right across my back.

[Graymatter]

Four Yorkshire Men Skit in wav format ... be still my heart! One of the funniest bits I ever heard. Thanks Jonx6!

[johnb838]

My mom lost custody about that age, and yes, she delivered two disciplary nightmares, and yes, she would have had the CPS on him if she thought she could cause him some problems.

This was over thirty years ago. Hell hath no fury...

[Americanexpat]

Thank you, God Bless your father and hope he is well.

I have never had to spank either one of my kids either. just the look was enough.

When my son Teddy was in First grade the teacher told my wife they were sitting in a classroom and one of the kids said his father had beat him for not doing well in school. All the other kids joined in and were saying pretty much the same. My son wasn't talking. The teacher asked him "what about you Teddy, does your father every beat you?" Teddy says "no, teacher, my father don't know how to beat me, but my Mama knows how".

I really never had a reason to discipline them because by the time I came home from work my wife had already taken care of it.

[johnb838]

Yeah, but it's a good idea, hard to argue a wooden spoon is a deadly weapon. I'd like to be the lawyer to defend that one.

[johnb838]

Time out should be BEFORE they do something they'll regret later, something that's going to hurt them more than it hurts you.

[Graymatter]

We left that be since we recognized the pattern of escalation...Just a funny story I thought I'd share.

Speaking of escalation and sharing funnies, you need to see post #35. :)

[stands2reason]

Looks like he wanted to be a grownup and then got treated as one.

And I bet he got off rather easier than any other man who would treat your wife in such a manner.

[winker]

If you are still rebellious at 12 then you will more than likely end up society's problem ultimately unless you are very fortunate; luck has nothing to do with anything. If you are left to your own devices with no spiritual guidance in a bad environment and circle of friends with the same experience you don't have a lot going for you. This condition breeds Theodore Bundys or worse sociopaths. Tough love and a strong Father figure active in the family is what is needed. I am a strong advocate of Tough Love that runs counter to stupid liberal propaganda that ends up in all the wrong places. Societal misfits need Mr. Belt applied in tough love long enough to stimulate the Gludious Maximus and send a direct message to the Brain just like Jehovah God intented in the first place. Spare the rod and spoil the child is as valid now as it ever was. Don't blame society just go take a long look in the mirror. This is how problems are solved.

[MikefromOhio]

I didnt get any tough love.

I was shown what was right and wrong. It had nothing to do with tough love.

My brother was rebellious when he was 13 and 14, but that was the same time I was having issues when I was 15 and 16. But that was more because we were moving than anything else....

[Allosaurs_r_us]

Heh, heh........you're probly right there. It is a good thing I did it then, as now he is 6'2" and goes right around 280 lbs. I'm way to old to try him again.......LOL

 

Now I just let his mom beat him up.

[winker]

Who showed you Right from Wrong? Was your Dad your diciplinarian? Most adolecents & children need some form of tough love! Jehovah God designed the Family and put a man in charge. If not will you step up and be the diciplinarian in your own family or will you abdicate authority to a female figure of lesser authority and suffer the consequences?

[MikefromOhio]

actually it was my Mom more than my Dad.

Dad would sit down and talk with me. He would help me see the logic behind this and that or whatever.

My mom, the former MP, one time handcuffed me and my brother to show us what woudl happen if we did something stupid. at 8 and 6, it stuck....

As for the rest of that, I dont know. It depends. My uncle John had 7 kids and was away 85% of the time when his kids were young. All of them have turned out just fine, with families and careers and all that.

[quietolong]

5-Year-Old Handcuffed By Florida Police On Camera
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1394137/posts


Yet we ask why.

[LaineyDee]

I don't understand some wimmen.....and yes I know their are different circumstances... but I'd have given anything if my ex would have participated in adequately disciplining the kids. The job is to get the kids raised as best you can. If you focus on that....you'll find you have no time or energy to waste on vindictiveness.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

I've spanked my son about 5 times -- and then just a quick swat on the rear -- 3 times for running away in public, one for refusing to go in "time out," then trying to bite me, and I forget the reason for the 5th, but it was some physical misbehavior, since I consider physical punishment only appropriate for physical misdeeds.

But the most effective punishment I ever gave him, to judge by how repentant he was, was when I told him that I was so angry with him that I wasn't going to read to him at bedtime.

[Junior]

Damnation! Both my mom and dad would've been serving life sentences...

[Celtjew Libertarian]

You wouldn't happen to be one of my wife's siblings? Except for the paddle it sounds like her family. Nothing was more devastating than her father shaking his head and saying, "I am so disappointed in you."