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Thanks to the Minuteman Project
magic-city-news.com ^ | Apr 21, 2005, 12:57 | Jan Herron

Posted on 04/29/2005 7:48:29 AM PDT by Destro

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No wonder "they" want to take away the 2nd Ammendment - "they" are afriad of the people. "They" actually fear citizens bypassing them.

Also, it has made me re-evaluate what the Republican party stands for these days beyond taking and keeping power for the sake of being in power.

Lastly, in the back of my mind I have this feeling that the Karl Rove like figures are manipulating the MP somehow - maybe us being angry at the Repubs works in the Repubs favor somehow - or maybe it is designed as a way to get activists to let off steam and get distracted.

Why do I say that? Sean Hannity started advertising the MP - and Sean does nothing without official party talking points in front of him.

1 posted on 04/29/2005 7:48:31 AM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro

Has Bush acknowldged this yet or other Republicans for that matter?


2 posted on 04/29/2005 7:52:37 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Destro

BTW, I don't consider Governor Schwarzenegger to be a Republican.


3 posted on 04/29/2005 7:53:37 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Destro

Be sure to contribute to this cause.


4 posted on 04/29/2005 7:53:41 AM PDT by bella1 (red county, blue state)
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Bush called them vigilantes. If they are why hasn't Bush asked the FBI to arrest them?
5 posted on 04/29/2005 7:56:15 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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and Sean does nothing without official party talking points in front of him.

Uh, yeah, sure, Destro.

6 posted on 04/29/2005 7:57:36 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Destro

I really don't understand his reluctance to DO SOMETHING about this. It's not as though he is running for a third term. Even Hispanics do NOT want illegals taking jobs and draining the public coffers.

WHAT is with BUSH?


7 posted on 04/29/2005 7:57:46 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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If they are why hasn't Bush asked the FBI to arrest them?

Because Bush was just blowing smoke at the time?

8 posted on 04/29/2005 7:58:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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9 posted on 04/29/2005 8:07:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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"Sean Hannity started advertising the MP - and Sean does nothing without official party talking points in front of him."


Right on Destro. I used to listen to Hannity a while ago and then just quit. After turning on the radio about 2 weeks ago I heard him saying how illegals coming across the border just want to work hard like everyone else. I guess then according to his philosophy the drug runners are just trying to make ends meet also. Maybe if people wake up and stop voting for just either Republicans or Democrats and move on to 3rd parties, we can restore some sanity to our country. Spare me this Compassionate Conservativism crap. Sounds more like Liberal Republicanism.


10 posted on 04/29/2005 8:09:11 AM PDT by IronChefSakai (Life, Liberty, and Limited Government!)
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To: dirtboy

Just listen to Sean and you will know he is concerned about terrorists coming across the border, but o.k. with making illegals legal no matter how many and how destructive to both cultures.

Does that sound like Bush?


11 posted on 04/29/2005 8:12:23 AM PDT by amihow
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To: dirtboy

As long as he didn't inhale....


12 posted on 04/29/2005 8:15:11 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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THEIR UNOFFICIAL SONG
13 posted on 04/29/2005 8:16:24 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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Just listen to Sean and you will know he is concerned about terrorists coming across the border, but o.k. with making illegals legal no matter how many and how destructive to both cultures. Does that sound like Bush?

Sean has given the Minutemen very high praise. That doesn't sound like Bush at all.

There is a fair debate to be had about what to do with the illegals that are already here. But there should be no debate as to whether we should do what we can, within reason, to staunch or halt the flow of illegals into this country. That is where Bush is falling down, very badly.

14 posted on 04/29/2005 8:21:28 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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"Spare me this Compassionate Conservativism crap"

Me too!

Talk show hosts only say what the audience wants to here. If anyone asks the question "what can we do?", it is the same thing - vote Republican. What good has that been?

15 posted on 04/29/2005 9:04:49 AM PDT by cherrytoes
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To: Destro

MMP bump.


16 posted on 04/29/2005 9:07:37 AM PDT by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: nmh
Has Bush acknowldged this yet or other Republicans for that matter?

Some Republicans have. Bush still has not and the administration still sticks by the "vigilante" smear.

WASHINGTON, D.C. – From today’s Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus (CIRC) meeting with the Minutemen:

“I would like to thank the Minutemen on behalf of the millions of Americans who can’t be here with you today. You have the courage to say to the government of the United States, ‘Do your duty! Protect our borders! Protect our communities! Protect our families! Protect our jobs!’ You are good citizens who ask only that our laws be enforced. When did that become such a radical idea?” said Congressman Tom Tancredo (CO-06), Chairman of Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.

“Our outdated immigration laws are no longer enough to secure our homeland in a post 9-11 world. In order to protect Americans, Congress must immediately secure our borders by passing tough, updated immigration legislation. Congress has already taken an important step forward by tightening asylum loopholes and increasing drivers license standards but more is clearly needed,” said Conference Secretary John T. Doolittle (CA-04). “I applaud the law-abiding Minutemen Project volunteers for exercising their rights as they seek to draw attention to our nation’s porous Mexican border.”

Congressman Lamar Smith (TX-21) said, “When the federal government fails to do its job, we should not be surprised when law abiding citizens want to protect their property and our borders.”

Congressman Scott Garrett (NJ-05) said, “We have taken many steps to tighten border security and immigration procedures in the last three years, but there is still much work to be done to keep America safe. This project is helping to keep national attention focused on the need for effective border security and immigration reforms.”

“What the Minutemen proved to the American people was this: the federal government can do something about illegal immigration other than to raise a white flag and surrender to the invasion. Now it is up to every American to get involved in this critical struggle to preserve our security and our sovereignty by demanding that this administration and this Congress stop thinking about amnesty and start enforcing our immigration laws,” said Congressman J.D. Hayworth (AZ-05).

Congressman Phil Gingrey (GA-11) said, “The Minuteman Project is a shining example of how community initiative and involvement can help make America a safer, better place to live. These brave men and women are standing up for our security, defending America from the illegal immigrants who are crossing our borders by the millions. As a proud member of the Immigration Reform Caucus, I encourage other citizens to support this cause and defend our nation.”

Congressman Virgil Goode (VA-05) said, “I salute the Minutemen for assisting in a task which the government should be doing. They recognize the necessity of stopping illegal immigration. I hope that the President and a majority of the House and Senate will recognize that border security should be a top priority. I hope that they will support the legislation to authorize the use of U. S. troops on our border in peacetime to help with border security as needed.”

“The federal government has not done its job in securing and protecting our borders. There are over 10 million illegal immigrants in this country, most of whom cross the Mexican border at a rate of about 16,000 per week,” said Congressman Walter Jones (NC-03). “My home state of North Carolina ranks 8th in the nation for its illegal immigrant population of over 300,000. These kinds of numbers do not come without a price to the American people. It is estimated that illegal immigrants account for annual costs of $4 billion in healthcare, $7 ½ billion in education, and almost another billion for federal prisons. It is true that we are a nation of immigrants, and that is what makes America great. But for the security and protection of all our citizens, we have to demand that those wanting to come here do so through proper, legal channels. It is time the federal government steps up to the plate to defend our borders so that private citizens like those here today don't have to.”

Congressman Tom Price (GA-06) said, “The Minutemen truly are the nation's most successful neighborhood watch program. America is fortunate that so many citizens are willing to dedicate their time and energy to this effort. Their work should serve as a wakeup call to all those in Washington who've opposed our effort to strengthen our immigration and border policies and enforcement.”

“I hope the Minutemen Project has raised awareness around the country for the need to reform our seriously flawed immigration system. Illegal immigration adversely impacts our job market, our education system and health care costs. Hard working American taxpayers are being forced to shoulder that burden placed on society. There is a right way to enter our country and a wrong way,” said Congressman J. Gresham Barrett (SC-03). “The Minutemen Project volunteers understand that we can no longer stick our head in the sand. We cannot go back to a pre-9/11 mentality that immigration concerns are not a matter of national security. And let’s be clear, illegal immigration exposes us on a daily basis to an increased risk of another terrorist attack. The times in which we live today demand that matters of national security deserve more than political correctness.”


17 posted on 04/29/2005 9:14:33 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Algernon Sidney

You are so correct - that is why my nose starts itching - how did this movement gain publicity? How did the radio talk show hosts all like lemmings jump on the story at the same time? I have a marketing background - there is a concept in marketing I call synchronicity - when I see synchronicity of an issue suddenly appearing I raise an eyebrow.


19 posted on 04/29/2005 9:36:54 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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What has the Minuteman project accomplished? No policy is being changed by their actions and it is obvious that Bush and those in power do not take them seriously. And why should they? No REAL Minuteman would have surrendered the border in less than a month. Mere symbolic gestures generally do not last much longer than the symbolic act is carried out. I agree that the border needs to be tightened, but don't be under the illusion that a month-long campout along a small portion of the border is going to influence anyone in Washington.

Hey, newbie, be patient. We went from one lone Congressman supporting the Minuteman Project to over ten Congressmen supporting it. The first Minuteman Project was the prototype. Wait for Minuteman Project II which be much bigger and will serve to gain even more attention to the problem as it will not only stretch across the southern border but will include interior activism as well. This sea change will not happen overnight. But it is going to happen. Wait and see. The tide is turning.

20 posted on 04/29/2005 9:37:24 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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