Home insurer paying for kid-sex defendants

Boston Herald.com ^ | April 29, 2005 | J.M. Lawrence

[Boston Blackie]

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there - for two men who advocate legal sex with young boys. The Illinois insurer is paying Boston lawyers to defend two members of the North American Man Boy Love Association against a wrongful death suit filed by the family of a 10-year-old Cambridge boy murdered by pedophiles. ``People who insure with State Farm should know a percentage of profits made off their premiums is going to defend people who want to rape their kids,'' said Lawrence Frisoli, attorney for the family of Jeffrey Curley, who was murdered by NAMBLA member Charles Jaynes in 1997.

[FormerACLUmember]

The queer mafia must get some amazing special insurance policies. My State Farm coverage does not protect me from any criminal activities.

[ContemptofCourt]

An insurer has an overriding duty to defend. They probably issued a reservation of rights letter, but if an insurer chooses not to defend an action, they are risking a subsequent bad faith suit by the insured.

The court's largely come down on the side of the insured in these cases, at least from the perspective of providing a defense. I have handled three such cases in the last 3 years, actually.

[marktwain]

``We don't ask before we insure you what organizations you belong to,'' said State Farm spokesman Dick Luedke at company headquarters in Bloomington

Looks to me as though State Farm is honoring its contractual obligations. These guys were not involved in the crime that occurred.

[ThisLittleLightofMine]

Will you also be a former state farmer client very soon? I left those dimwits 14 years ago....try American Express Car/Home insurance. You get special privileges if you are also a Costco member FYI.

[SweetCaroline]

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) calls a $200-million lawsuit against the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) a "witch hunt." The suit is being brought by the family of slain 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley, who was molested and murdered by two men. Police found NAMBLA materials in the home of one of those men, Charles Jaynes. Attorneys for Robert and Barbara Curley, of Cambridge, Massachusetts, have asked a federal judge to let them sue NAMBLA under Rico laws, which target criminal conspiracies. NAMBLA is a "criminal" organization "that exists to train pedophiles to rape children," according to the suit. The Curley lawsuit also demands the names of all NAMBLA members. "That, more than anything, shows the purpose of this suit and why it should be dismissed," ACLU attorney John Reinstein told the court in his petition to have the case dismissed. The ACLU is also petitioning the court to gag the attorneys of both sides in an effort to keep the case out of the press. "I am amazed at the irony of the ACLU, the self-proclaimed guardians of free speech, calling for a gag order," Steve Aiken, director of communications for the Traditional Values Coalition, told C&F Report. The Traditional Values Coalition is helping to fund the Curley lawsuit. "The ACLU and other defenders of NAMBLA do not want the public to hear the truth about NAMBLA and the role it played in the death of Jeffrey Curley," he added. Along with general NAMBLA materials, Cambridge police found a manual titled "Rape and Escape" published by the pedophile organization. "The book literally details how pedophiles can lure, befriend, and rape a child, then avoid detection and prosecution," Aiken said. According to trial records, the killers of Jeffrey Curley followed one of the manual’s suggestions. The men stole Jeffrey’s bicycle, befriended him as they helped in a fruitless search, then offered to buy Jeffrey a new bike. The men were on the way to the store with Jeffrey when they offered him money for sexual favors. As Jeffrey rebuffed them, they resorted to force, eventually suffocating the boy. The men then raped the corpse. Since the death of his son, Robert Curley has been grappling with the inconsistency of his so-called "gay friendly" hometown. Community leaders have virtually ignored the family’s loss. The city of Cambridge has several markers and memorials to murdered homosexuals. Sen. Edward Kennedy(D), despite his vocal outrage at the death of Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard, has declined to comment about the death of Jeffrey Curley.

[SweetCaroline]

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) calls a $200-million lawsuit against the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) a "witch hunt." The suit is being brought by the family of slain 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley, who was molested and murdered by two men. Police found NAMBLA materials in the home of one of those men, Charles Jaynes. Attorneys for Robert and Barbara Curley, of Cambridge, Massachusetts, have asked a federal judge to let them sue NAMBLA under Rico laws, which target criminal conspiracies. NAMBLA is a "criminal" organization "that exists to train pedophiles to rape children," according to the suit. The Curley lawsuit also demands the names of all NAMBLA members. "That, more than anything, shows the purpose of this suit and why it should be dismissed," ACLU attorney John Reinstein told the court in his petition to have the case dismissed. The ACLU is also petitioning the court to gag the attorneys of both sides in an effort to keep the case out of the press. "I am amazed at the irony of the ACLU, the self-proclaimed guardians of free speech, calling for a gag order," Steve Aiken, director of communications for the Traditional Values Coalition, told C&F Report. The Traditional Values Coalition is helping to fund the Curley lawsuit. "The ACLU and other defenders of NAMBLA do not want the public to hear the truth about NAMBLA and the role it played in the death of Jeffrey Curley," he added. Along with general NAMBLA materials, Cambridge police found a manual titled "Rape and Escape" published by the pedophile organization. "The book literally details how pedophiles can lure, befriend, and rape a child, then avoid detection and prosecution," Aiken said. According to trial records, the killers of Jeffrey Curley followed one of the manual’s suggestions. The men stole Jeffrey’s bicycle, befriended him as they helped in a fruitless search, then offered to buy Jeffrey a new bike. The men were on the way to the store with Jeffrey when they offered him money for sexual favors. As Jeffrey rebuffed them, they resorted to force, eventually suffocating the boy. The men then raped the corpse. Since the death of his son, Robert Curley has been grappling with the inconsistency of his so-called "gay friendly" hometown. Community leaders have virtually ignored the family’s loss. The city of Cambridge has several markers and memorials to murdered homosexuals. Sen. Edward Kennedy(D), despite his vocal outrage at the death of Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard, has declined to comment about the death of Jeffrey Curley.

[SweetCaroline]

...sorry about the double post, it didn't seem to work the first time!!!

[SweetCaroline]

The city of Cambridge has several markers and memorials to murdered homosexuals. Sen. Edward Kennedy(D), despite his vocal outrage at the death of Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard, has declined to comment about the death of Jeffrey Curley. ....does this surprise anyone?????

[Conservative Infidel]

Exactly! Just what sort of policy do I have to buy to get that type of protection? Can my local State Farm agent sell me this coverage or do I need to purchase it through my local NAMBLA chapter?

[Conservative Infidel]

Still begs the question, just exactly what type of insurance coverage did these scum buy?

"Hello, State Farm agent? I am looking for a quote on molestation insurance."

"Hello, my name is Mr. X. I am a pedophile. I am interested in obtaining some type of insurance that will cover my legal expenses in case the parents of a boy I might someday abduct, smother with a gas soaked rag, molest his dead body, and after I have had my way with the body, pack in a cement filled ice chest and dump in a river two states away. Can you give me a ballpark estimate what my premiums might look like?"

[marktwain]

"Hello, my name is Mr. X. I am a pedophile. I am interested in obtaining some type of insurance that will cover my legal expenses in case the parents of a boy I might someday abduct, smother with a gas soaked rag, molest his dead body, and after I have had my way with the body, pack in a cement filled ice chest and dump in a river two states away. Can you give me a ballpark estimate what my premiums might look like?"

You might consider reading a little closer. The people who have the State Farm insurance Home Owners policy are not the ones who committed the crime. They belong to a political organization and are being sued because of belonging to the organization.

It is as if members of the National Rifle Association were sued by the victims of a person who was murdered with a gun, because they favor laws which allow people to carry guns.

There is nothing unusual about an insurance policy being used to defend people from liability lawsuits.

[secretagent]

It is as if members of the National Rifle Association were sued by the victims of a person who was murdered with a gun, because they favor laws which allow people to carry guns.

What if the NRA advocated child rape at gunpoint, and offered advice on how to get away with it?

From SweetCaroline's #6 excerpt:

Along with general NAMBLA materials, Cambridge police found a manual titled "Rape and Escape" published by the pedophile organization. "The book literally details how pedophiles can lure, befriend, and rape a child, then avoid detection and prosecution," Aiken said. According to trial records, the killers of Jeffrey Curley followed one of the manual’s suggestions.

[SweetCaroline]

BUMP

[marktwain]

Steve Aiken, director of communications for the Traditional Values Coalition, told C&F Report. The Traditional Values Coalition is helping to fund the Curley lawsuit. "The ACLU and other defenders of NAMBLA do not want the public to hear the truth about NAMBLA and the role it played in the death of Jeffrey Curley," he added. Along with general NAMBLA materials, Cambridge police found a manual titled "Rape and Escape" published by the pedophile organization. "The book literally details how pedophiles can lure, befriend, and rape a child, then avoid detection and prosecution," Aiken said.

When you consider that the person making the above charge is funding the lawsuit, it takes away from his credibility quite a bit.

Many anti-gunners make the claim that the NRA assists criminals.

We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. People on the right frequently refer to Abortionists as murderers, yet are appalled when people suggest that RICO procedures should be used against them when someone kills an Abortion doctor.

We should be consistent and uphold the concept of free speech and a free press for all. Have you heard of the concept: "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it!"

[secretagent]

Aiken may have mischaracterized NAMBLA. Or he may have correctly described one of their pamphlets.

It starts to move from a free speech issue to an "initiation of force" issue, when people produce a pamphlet that advocates child rape and show how to avoid detection for same.

We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. People on the right frequently refer to Abortionists as murderers, yet are appalled when people suggest that RICO procedures should be used against them when someone kills an Abortion doctor.

Most on the pro-fetus side denounce the killing of abortion doctors, so I can understand their opposition to RICO.

We should be consistent and uphold the concept of free speech and a free press for all. Have you heard of the concept: "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it!"

I agree with the idea and practice of free speech, except when the speech functions as a credible incitement to the initiation of force.

Of course that eliminates 99.99999% of political speech! Back to the drawing board...