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Man who set son on fire dodges life term
AP ^ | 4/28/5 | LISA LEFF

Posted on 04/28/2005 6:34:17 PM PDT by SmithL

SAN FRANCISCO - A man who became notorious for serving only 6 1/2 years for setting his son on fire two decades ago will not be sentenced to life in prison on a handgun charge under California's tough three-strikes law, a judge ruled Thursday.

Charley Charles, known as Charles Rothenberg when he burned his 6-year-old son in 1983, was convicted in February of illegally possessing a handgun that he said he needed as protection from vigilantes bent on retaliation for the crime against the boy.

San Francisco County Superior Court Judge Cynthia Lee indicated she was reluctantly not counting Charles' arson conviction as a prior strike. She went to great lengths to explain that she felt the heinousness of what he did to his now severely disfigured son, coupled with a lengthy criminal history, made him just the sort of criminal the three-strikes law was designed to punish.

"That pervasive malignancy puts him squarely within the spirit and the letter of the three-strikes law," Lee said.

But the judge said she was compelled to count his handgun conviction as only a second strike because of a 2004 California Supreme Court ruling that said if two previous convictions stemmed from the same act, it could only count as one strike.

Charles, 64, will be sentenced Friday for being a felon possessing a handgun and ammunition. He would ordinarily face a prison term of 16 months to three years, but the terms are doubled because it's his second strike.

In 1983, Charles took his son, David, to a motel in the Southern California suburb of Buena Park and gave the boy a sleeping pill. He then doused him with kerosene, set him afire and left the room.

He said then that he was distraught over losing the boy to his estranged wife in a custody battle. The boy survived, suffering third-degree burns over 90 percent of his body.

He was convicted of attempted murder, arson and other charges. He received a 13-year prison sentence, the maximum penalty at the time, but was released for good behavior after serving 6 1/2 years. Sentencing guidelines were later increased.

His attorney, Gabriel Bassan, told jurors that his client needed a weapon because had "no reasonable, legal alternative to protect himself." He said Charles was despised by a public that could not forgive his past and was labeled a "baby burner."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
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There is a special corner of hell reserved for his kind.
1 posted on 04/28/2005 6:34:17 PM PDT by SmithL
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"no reasonable, legal alternative to protect himself."

Neither did his son

2 posted on 04/28/2005 6:36:45 PM PDT by apackof2 (Truth is absolute or absolutely nothing is True)
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"He was convicted of attempted murder, arson and other charges. He received a 13-year prison sentence, the maximum penalty at the time, but was released for good behavior after serving 6 1/2 years. Sentencing guidelines were later increased"

But letting him out after serving only half of his sentence (which wasn't half long enough), was entirely optional. I hope he rots.

3 posted on 04/28/2005 6:38:28 PM PDT by sageb1
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Scum of the earth.


4 posted on 04/28/2005 6:38:43 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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Just like California. They worry about a criminal protecting himself from law abiding citizens but do not allow citizens to protect themselves agains criminals.


5 posted on 04/28/2005 6:38:44 PM PDT by speed_addiction (I like to watch the children running and squealing. You see, they don't know I am using blanks!)
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He's definitely earned his reservation in hell.

"... 2004 California Supreme Court ruling that said if two previous convictions stemmed from the same act, it could only count as one strike."

I did not realize this.


6 posted on 04/28/2005 6:38:56 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Fee, Fie, Foe, FReep!!)
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To: SmithL

A handgun is no match for a high-powered rifle......discharged from some distance.


7 posted on 04/28/2005 6:39:29 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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"Scum of the earth."

Amen. I'm hard pressed to ask the Lord to have mercy on this soul.
8 posted on 04/28/2005 6:40:56 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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He said Charles was despised by a public that could not forgive his past and was labeled a "baby burner."

Surely he's not surprised by either of these two facts.

9 posted on 04/28/2005 6:43:22 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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He's not even getting life, and he should get death.


10 posted on 04/28/2005 6:51:56 PM PDT by Brilliant
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OMG. The convicted criminal is portrayed as a victim of a hateful, mean spirited public by the lawyer. I really detest lawyers.


11 posted on 04/28/2005 6:54:36 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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[He was convicted of attempted murder, arson and other charges. He received a 13-year prison sentence, the maximum penalty at the time]




I find the fact that 13 years in prison was the MAXIMUM sentence that could be given for being convicted of "attempted murder, arson and other charges" to be the most unbelievable detail of this whole story.
12 posted on 04/28/2005 6:55:12 PM PDT by spinestein (Don't Panic!!!)
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A spineless sub-human. I'm surprised the inmates didn't cut his life short.


13 posted on 04/28/2005 6:59:02 PM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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I don't have words.....


14 posted on 04/28/2005 7:01:58 PM PDT by demkicker (Support DeLay, the Hammer, and the filibuster ban on judicial nominations!)
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A few yrs. back I watched an interview which featured this subhumans son. The lad was still a boy at the time. The father had already been released and was trying to obtain visitation rights, or something to that affect.

As one can only sympathize, the victim did not want to see his biological father. The interview was heart wrenching.
15 posted on 04/28/2005 7:09:29 PM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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Why expect prison inmates to do what you consider justice?

Always vote NO on every judicial retention for the next 10 years.



16 posted on 04/28/2005 7:11:33 PM PDT by sarasmom
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I saw it too and was appalled.
17 posted on 04/28/2005 7:15:24 PM PDT by demkicker (Support DeLay, the Hammer, and the filibuster ban on judicial nominations!)
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To: sarasmom

Personally, I did not say that I considered it to be justice. If that were the case, the California judicial system should have put him to death. That would've been justice.

As you know, when an inmate commits a crime against children, they are targets in prison. Given the heinous nature of his crime, I would've expected the inmates would surely kill this creature.


18 posted on 04/28/2005 7:20:05 PM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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To: SmithL

and judge cyndy lee tooo...


19 posted on 04/28/2005 8:10:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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Six more years? Justice is too kind in San Francisco...

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
20 posted on 04/29/2005 3:05:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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