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Agency Says North Korea Able to Mount Warheads on Missiles
New York Times ^ | 4/28/05 | DAVID S. CLOUD and DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 04/28/2005 5:01:57 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: ProudVet77
"Not unless the ChiComs gave them the recipe."

Not necessarily true. Although delivery systems are based on origninal Chinese design, the North Koreans have developed their own deliverly payload (satellites? yeah right.) program. The Pakistan's have Ghauri-II and Iran's have the Shahab-3 based on NK's (and China) designs, and could have added their deadly input.

21 posted on 04/28/2005 9:26:12 PM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: endthematrix

The miniaturization of nuclear weapons, both in size and weight is a huge complex task. The NKs have no way of doing this on their own. The have cruddy little missiles, and if they even have nukes they are the size of an SUV. The ChiComs don't have MIRV. Nuff said?


22 posted on 04/28/2005 9:33:23 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent sarcastic posts)
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To: ProudVet77
Yes, miniaturization is the key. The technical difficulties are dwindling every day. If they can send up a payload of 1,000-1,500 kilogram in orbit, then we aren't too far off.
23 posted on 04/28/2005 9:50:49 PM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: LibWhacker; bitt


24 posted on 04/28/2005 10:22:29 PM PDT by XR7
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To: LibWhacker

"North Korea able to mount warheads on missiles"


But, but the North Koreans are so short, I mean how do they reach.....?


25 posted on 04/28/2005 10:43:58 PM PDT by trubluolyguy ("Sure dolphins are friendly and smart, friendly and smart on rye bread with mayo")
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To: LibWhacker

Why would they waste the Plutonium on a fission bomb that they could use U-235 for? They will keep the Plutonium to use it to detonate a fusion bomb, which means two small Plutonium devices will be needed for each complete thermonuclear device.


26 posted on 04/29/2005 6:00:47 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: LibWhacker
Update: Hillary attempts to rewrite history...

In an interview on Thursday, Mrs. Clinton called Admiral Jacoby's statement "the first confirmation, publicly, by the administration that the North Koreans have the ability to arm a missile with a nuclear device that can reach the United States," adding, "Put simply, they couldn't do that when George Bush became president, and now they can." Source

27 posted on 04/29/2005 6:45:15 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (~~Secretary of Keepin' It Real)
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To: 2harddrive

You can use U235 for a fusion bomb too. The trick of the fusion bomb is to use a fission bomb (called the "primary") to initiate the compression of the deuterium or lithium fuel.

Plutonium is just easier to deal with in a bomb than U-235, since it doesn't have the nasty proclivity to detonate if you drop the unit the wrong way. U-235 will detonate spontaneously if enough of it is gathered in one place.


28 posted on 04/29/2005 8:13:49 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: BigWaveBetty

She's counting on the short memory of the American public to gloss over the fact that North Korea didn't even have uranium or nuclear reactors before Clinton was president, and by the end of his 8 years, they did.


29 posted on 04/29/2005 8:17:17 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

Good point, MVPEL. The other advantage to Plutonium is it is the only element that will work as an implosion-detonated bomb. U-235 has to use the gun-barrel method.


30 posted on 04/29/2005 10:52:05 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: neverdem
From a Blog:

NK: Jacoby Claims North Korea Can Arm Taepo Dong 2 With Nuke ~~ Wrong answer, Lowell.

31 posted on 04/29/2005 11:41:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Majic; bitt

Note to bitt---I think we discussed this a few days ago


32 posted on 04/29/2005 11:41:18 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: mvpel

"U-235 will detonate spontaneously"

Not my area, I mainly did the conventional side of explosives, but I beleive both deflagrate not detonate spontaneously. I beleive a nuclear event requires comprssion/containment.

best regards


33 posted on 04/29/2005 1:14:30 PM PDT by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: conshack

"The S. Korean government is hopeless when it comes to dealing with the north."

It must seem different when the bulk of their population is in range of an insane amount of DPRK artillery, not to mention the nuke threat, 24-7. I don't disagree with you, but in a conflict, they may take a very big hit even if we 'win.'


34 posted on 04/29/2005 1:19:10 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: dozer7

As I understand it, the Little Boy bomb simply forcibly assembled multiple sub-critical masses of U235 into a supercritical mass.


35 posted on 04/29/2005 1:30:36 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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"As I understand it, the Little Boy bomb simply forcibly assembled multiple sub-critical masses of U235 into a supercritical mass."

True but forcibly assembled means compressed and contained. There are lots of links on the requirements on the bright white flash, as the Sandia boys define it. That is a nuclear event not a radiological event.

An excellent reference is:

The Effects of Nuclear Weapons
Compiled and Edited by Samuel Gladsstone and Philip Dolan
Published by

United Stats Department of Defense\and the
Energy Research and Development Administration

my copy is not dated

You slam these componets together without the right stuff you get a rapid burn (deflagration) not a detonation. Granted decerning the two is hard on the receiving end.

No Mach Stem no detonation. Page 89 of cited text.

Not to say things will be not shitty. Just being correct.

Bottom line low order is not great but orders of magnitude beter than high order. Expolsive speak

regards


36 posted on 04/29/2005 3:16:40 PM PDT by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: LibWhacker

The North Koreans must have designed missles with anuses-they are experts at putting their head up their anus.


37 posted on 04/29/2005 3:20:37 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Nuke the energy crisis-conserve the sun,wind and tides, for future generations.)
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To: cherokee1

unhappily, yes we did...ms. clintoon and ms. albright make me puke.


38 posted on 04/29/2005 5:43:09 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: mvpel
She's counting on the short memory of the American public to gloss over the fact that North Korea didn't even have uranium or nuclear reactors before Clinton was president, and by the end of his 8 years, they did.

When the 2008 election comes around, this will be a BIG deal if she starts trying to claim that this all happened during the Republican white house years.

Like it or not, she is going to have to answer for a lot of things Bubba (and his buddy Jimmah) did during their "leadership".

39 posted on 04/30/2005 7:18:29 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: XR7


40 posted on 05/03/2005 1:43:35 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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