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MARYMOUNT MANHATTAN COLLEGE DECLARED NOT CATHOLIC by Archdiocese of New York [Hillary at issue]
Cardinal Newman Society E-mail Alert ^ | Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:34:13 -0700 | Cardinal Newman Society

Posted on 04/28/2005 3:30:37 PM PDT by Diago

Thank you everyone who participated in Cardinal Newman Society's protest against Hillary Clinton's commencement address and honorary degree at Marymount Manhattan College! Your actions have led to a just outcome and will send a strong message to other wayward Catholic colleges. Please continue to help us protest several other commencement scandals -- more details to come next week! -- CNS

DURING CNS PROTEST OF HILLARY CLINTON HONORS, MARYMOUNT MANHATTAN COLLEGE DECLARED NOT CATHOLIC

(April 28, 2005)

The Archdiocese of New York has formally declared Marymount Manhattan College -- which has been under protest by the Cardinal Newman Society for inviting pro-abortion Sen. Hillary Clinton to give its commencement address and receive an honorary degree on May 20 -- no longer a Catholic institution. The College will no longer be listed in The Official Catholic Directory, which identifies institutions including Marymount Manhattan College that are formally recognized as Catholic.

This is the fourth time since Pope John Paul II issued Ex Corde Ecclesiae, the apostolic constitution on Catholic universities, that a bishop has declared an historically Catholic college or university to be not Catholic. The 1990 document gives local bishops the responsibility of determining whether colleges can bear the label “Catholic.” Catholic colleges established prior to 1990 are assumed to be Catholic and to conform sufficiently to the guidelines of Ex Corde Ecclesiae until a bishop declares otherwise.

Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, was declared “no longer Catholic” by Cardinal Edward Egan of the Archdiocese of New York in 2003, during a similar protest by Cardinal Newman Society of the college’s commencement speaker, pro-abortion New York Attorney General Elliott Spitzer. CNS also protested Spitzer as the commencement speaker at Marymount Manhattan College last year, but no public action was taken by the Archdiocese and the College took no step to end its affiliation with the Catholic Church. Two other historically Catholic colleges in Rochester, New York -- Nazareth College and Saint John Fisher College -- have been declared no longer Catholic by Bishop Matthew Clark.

“The decision to honor one of Congress’ most outspoken and strident advocates of abortion rights was just the latest episode in a long history of secularization at Marymount Manhattan College,” said Patrick J. Reilly, President of the Cardinal Newman Society (CNS), in a press release. CNS is a national organization dedicated to the renewal of Catholic identity at America’s 220 -- now 219 -- Catholic colleges and universities.

“Why the College chose to remain officially Catholic while turning traitor against the Catholic Church, I cannot say," Reilly continued. "This is a good day for those seeking truth and clarity, but at the same time a sad day for Catholics, who founded, attended and funded this college only to be turned away for the sake of government funding and private ambitions.”

CNS wrote Cardinal Egan on April 14, complaining about Marymount Manhattan College’s plans to honor Sen. Clinton and suggesting “immediate action to prevent scandal in the Archdiocese of New York.” CNS asked Cardinal Egan to consider advising the College privately to withdraw Clinton’s invitation, but also acknowledged “that the enforcement of Ex Corde Ecclesiae may require the declaration that an institution is no longer Catholic, and we support such action if Marymount Manhattan College obstinately refuses to acknowledge your pastoral authority as bishop and to uphold the Church’s fundamental teachings.”

According to the Archdiocese of New York, the College’s officials agreed with today’s action. Indeed, College employees had been rebuffing CNS protesters of the Clinton honors by claiming that Marymount Manhattan College has not been Catholic since 1961, when it separated from its parent institution, Marymount College of Tarrytown, and its founding women’s religious order, the Religious of the Sacred Heart of Mary. In fact, the College’s actions in 1961 were similar to those of most other Catholic institutions throughout the country that incorporated separate from the Church to qualify for state government funding. The vast majority of those colleges continue to claim a Catholic identity while slowly secularizing, and Marymount Manhattan College is not much different -- any apparent trace of its Catholic identity has disappeared over time, even though until today it preserved its official status as Catholic, possibly to avoid alienating its Catholic alumni and donors.

“There is tremendous value to clearly and formally identifying wayward Catholic institutions as no longer Catholic, as Cardinal Egan has done so courageously,” Reilly said. “If Senator Clinton had a similar degree of dignity, she might have declined the College’s honor out of respect for faithful Catholics who are appalled by her stridency on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. If the College’s trustees and officials had a similar degree of dignity, they might have chosen to respect the College’s roots and give their students something young people today are longing for -- a moral education rooted in the truth about God and man.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; academialist; catholic; catholiccolleges; catholiclist; catholicschools; catholicuniversities; hillary; hillaryscandals
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
I am really beginning to like Benedict.

He is starting to remind of some of the old German farmers I grew up with. Don't make a fuss, just chop out the weeds.
81 posted on 04/29/2005 6:08:57 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Diago; NYer

If the colleges don't care, is this a sanction?

We need more, these people profit by thumbing their nose at Catholic dogma.


82 posted on 04/29/2005 6:18:37 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: madprof98

Umnnhhh...

If you read Bettnet, you'll find that the Cardinal Newman Society had nothing to do with this 'pronouncement' from NY.

Actually, Manhattan was self-declared "non-Catholic" back around the time of the Land 'o' Lakes compact; at around the same time, NY de-listed the college from its "Catholic" directory.

Some time later, it re-appeared for no apparent reason--but its status has NEVER changed, even though the printed directory was inaccurate.


83 posted on 04/29/2005 6:26:33 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: wideawake; don-o

Sorry, not huge.

See Bettnet's story. Mary/Manhattan has been "non-Catholic" for about 40 years, although NY Directory mistakes have been made.

Simple show-time from Egan & Co.


84 posted on 04/29/2005 6:28:58 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: oldironsides

"Protesting parishioners prayed the rosary while she spoke and they were thrown out of their own church by strongmen."

Probably Secret Service Agents paid for by OUR MONEY!!!!

Good work Pope Benedict XVI!! I hope he acts in a similar fashion with other individuals who claim to be Catholic and suuport murdering little babies.

I can't see how any person who believes in a just God can condone abortion. It borders on paedophilia in horror.


85 posted on 04/29/2005 6:38:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Siobhan
He wants to remain Cardinal Archbishop of New York and not "promoted" to obscurity at the Vatican so Pope Benedict XVI can appoint someone else.

I hope Benedict XVI "promotes" him anyway. We need another pastor in the mold of + O'Connor who uses the pulpit of the Archbishop of New York to proclaim the Gospel. Egan would rather be in Rome, albeit as prefect and not as an archpriest or some such obscure role.

Pope Benedict believes in driving out non-Catholic universities and schools even if it leaves the Church with only a handful of truly Catholic institutions of higher learning.

I couldn't agree with him more. Truth in advertising.

86 posted on 04/29/2005 7:03:35 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Diago

Great find. Bookedmarked.


87 posted on 04/29/2005 7:08:07 AM PDT by stevio (Remember 9/11 by buying a 1911)
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To: oldironsides; ZULU; NYer; Diago
For more info: older FR thread...

Another older FR thread...

A take on this from Zenit.
88 posted on 04/29/2005 7:11:17 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: NYer; redgolum
re: Hellary photo

She looks possessed. Sort of like...


89 posted on 04/29/2005 7:32:53 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: NYer

Your picture of Hildebeast didn't come through. Here's the URL, for anyone interested (copy and paste it in the address bar):

http://community-2.webtv.net/crproc/DOMUSDEIANDREAL/media/captureD106.jpg


90 posted on 04/29/2005 7:37:29 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Diago

Amazing! I was talking to my parents last night, and one of the topics was the Catholic colleges spewing antichristian bile (my folks are trying to get me back into the RCC fold). And this happens! Each day I like this B16 more!


91 posted on 04/29/2005 7:42:34 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (I live in Minnesota, I run a business in Minnesota, but I remain a TEXAN!)
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To: eastsider
I tried to access the image and received a Forbidden message. LOL!
92 posted on 04/29/2005 8:19:26 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: NYer; ninenot
Where is Jadot's red hat????????

Better question: If, for his crimes, we cannot burn Jadot at the stake summarily, why have a Holy Office?????

93 posted on 04/29/2005 8:24:21 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Diago

fantastic! I agree that the Church should start proceedings to reobtain its property.


94 posted on 04/29/2005 8:27:39 AM PDT by jbarkley
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To: NYer

FINALLY!!


95 posted on 04/29/2005 8:35:19 AM PDT by okokie (Terri Schivo Martyr for the Gospel of Life)
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To: SaltyJoe
Catholic colleges...that is REAL Catholic colleges may want to offer an easy transfer of credits and tuition for those exiting students wanting a CATHOLIC education away from Marymount Manhattan.

They might have a problem accepting credit for the courses in "Lesbian Anthropology" or "Pagan Worship 101" tho...

96 posted on 04/29/2005 9:06:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
The code of canon law on the improper alienation of church property should be invoked and proceedings should begin for the return of church property to authentic Catholic educational authorities. It should be illegal for a secular cabal to STEAL a Roman Catholic college. That's big chunk of real estate and some change there.

For a universtiy to call itself "Catholic" it must have the local bishop's permission. I do not know of any Catholic or "Catholic" colleges or universities which are run by a diocese.

I am involved with starting a new Catholic university here in San Diego. The first thing we had to do was to get approval from our bishop to use the word "Catholic."

Here is the website: New Catholic University

97 posted on 04/29/2005 9:43:27 AM PDT by It's me
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To: COBOL2Java
"Lesbian Anthropology" or "Pagan Worship 101"

LOL!!! Agreed, but unless Math was turned into "fuzzy" math, then I hope the other (real) Catholic colleges consider the transferring students (and let them possibly test out of the subjects?).

I barely graduated and I'm still horrendous at taking tests. If I had been booted out of college, I'd probably be dancing on tables for a living. Well, I think I'd probably be trimming hedges and cutting lawns. Since I'm half Hispanic, I'd probably be pretty freakin' good at it too.
98 posted on 04/29/2005 9:43:46 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (May the Blessed Virgin guide mankind's effort to reaching a Just and lasting Peace.)
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To: Diago

I am really starting to like this Pope!!!!!


99 posted on 04/29/2005 9:45:59 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: It's me
It's not a question of being "run by the diocese." It has to do with the transfer of church property to a non-Catholic secular entity and whether that has followed proper canonical laws for the alienation of church property. As in:

"The university also claims that the sale is not subject to canon law, which requires Vatican approval for the sale of any Catholic property valued at over $3 million." http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/OSV/98nov9.html

100 posted on 04/29/2005 10:02:37 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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