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so is Bolton another Skull and Bones guy .... like Bush and sKerry?
1 posted on 04/28/2005 7:24:12 AM PDT by rface
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Son of a fireman? Worked his way up?? Sounds like he was grounded in common sense and life experience before he even got to Yale.


2 posted on 04/28/2005 7:31:26 AM PDT by chgomac
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Though Bolton supported the Vietnam War, he declined to enter combat duty, instead enlisting in the National Guard and attending law school after his 1970 graduation. "I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy," Bolton wrote of his decision in the 25th reunion book. "I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."

Seems like all of our current leaders are guys who some how tipped toed around Viet Nam.


3 posted on 04/28/2005 7:31:27 AM PDT by MudSlide
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Thirty-five years later, Bolton, who mocked audience hecklers in his speech, still displays a conservatism that is no less controversial.

Huh. I don't find him controversial.

(steely)

4 posted on 04/28/2005 7:31:59 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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Yale conservatives have a strong internet presence, for anybody interested:
Cacciaguida
E-Pression, by Zorak
Eve Tushnet
The Gordian Knot
MarriageDebate.com
Mommentary, by Elinor Dashwood
The Old Oligarch
Otto-da-Fe
The Rat
The Yale Free Press: Vast. Right. Winged.

I think the Yale Free Press really panned the Skull & Bones folk in one of their freshman guides to campus organizations.

6 posted on 04/28/2005 7:35:37 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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"The conservative underground is alive and well here. If we do not make our influence felt, rest assured we will in the real world."

Ya gotta like this one!! If only he added, "All your base are belong to us."
8 posted on 04/28/2005 7:38:06 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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"Compared to the persona you see on the news, he was very much a subdued, thoughtful, cordial sort of guy," Bruce Krueger '70, one of Bolton's roommates in Calhoun College, said.

I haven't seen any "persona" displayed by John Bolton that was anything other than subdued, thoughtful, and cordial.

The only evidence (if you could call it that) to the contrary are the dubious tales spun by the likes of partisan hacks like Melody Townsel, and disgruntled government bureaucrats.

I found it telling that Bolton kept his cool while under fire by Biden, Boxer and company, as they kept spewing and re-spewing their ludricrous sob-story that Bolton "got red in the face and pointed his finger!" at a poor widdle bureaucrat.

A lesser man than Bolton would've lost his temper right then and there.

12 posted on 04/28/2005 7:58:42 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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"The conservative underground is alive and well here. If we do not make our influence felt, rest assured we will in the real world."

This in a nut shell is conservatism. I was a college student during Goldwater's run for the presidency. I was a member of the "College Young Republicans" and campaigned tirelessly in the summer/fall of 64'. I haven't changed my politics one iota since then. The question I always ask myself is what is it that differentiates a conservative from a liberal. Not the easy answer where it's simply one's positions on particular policies and what candidate/party better exemplifies those policies. But what is it from a more philosophic perspective? In my opinion it boils down to two fundamental beliefs.

1. A belief in good and evil as real things that can be discerned by men.

2. A belief in reality (IOW the real world). As opposed to liberals and their policy prescriptions that are tailored for a world that ought to be, but in reality doesn't exist.

That's why Bolton was confident in that Yale speech. Even if Goldwater lost we would still win in the long run. Liberals have a huge problem. They are always on a collision course with reality.

During the 64 campaign a common refrain from the Democrats was that if you voted for Goldwater the war in Vietnam would be escalated. So I voted for Goldwater and sure enough the war in Vietnam was escalated.

14 posted on 04/28/2005 9:36:23 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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