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To: pissant

They're closing parish churches in St. Louis, but I'm sure you are right that there are places where it is healthier. But you bypass the point about the couple hundred mill in settlements.

But I wish we wouldn't argue. Seriously. I only want the best for the Mother Church and I want the freaks, weirdo's and deviants excommunicated and gone, just like I want the Episcopal church to be cleansed.

Unfortunately, I'm not so sure there is a mechanism to cleanse the Episcopal church so I may ride the schism wave back to Rome in the end, or hop over to a Roman parish and take Catechism class and be Received. Maybe I'd better not wait too long. Hmmmm.


71 posted on 04/28/2005 11:37:38 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: johnb838

I wasn't trying to argue with you per se. It was that from my vantage point, I've seen great improvements in the Catholic Church over the last couple of decades. I think JPII stopped the bleeding.

But you are absolutely correct about the whole "priests gone wild" crap and its aftermath. Hopefully Benedict will continue to clean house!


73 posted on 04/28/2005 11:42:26 AM PDT by pissant (house burgundy for you, missy!)
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To: johnb838

The Episcopal Church cannot be cleansed. Why? It is argumentative whether Darwin or the German royals (including those of the present generation) were more damaging to the Church of England (and thus to Episcopalians). Darwin assured the elitists, albeit obliquely, that rampant promiscuity was OK; the final nail in the coffin was when the German royals, through their own actions and neglect of the Church, instructed the flock that it was OK not to believe.


74 posted on 04/28/2005 11:47:22 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: johnb838
Check this link for Roman Catholic growth info in USA. It's also my understanding RC membership is growing everywhere except in Europe.

----excerpt---- Among the gainers, four religious bodies showed double-digit increases-- between 16 percent for Catholics and 19 percent for Latter-Day Saints (Mormons). The only other Christian body showing a gain was the Southern Baptist Convention at nearly 5 percent.

It can be noted that, except for Catholics, all those bodies gaining members between 1990 and 2000 generally are considered “Conservative Protestants,” while most of those showing a decrease in number of adherents generally are considered “Moderate” or “Liberal” Protestants.

75 posted on 04/28/2005 11:55:01 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: johnb838
Whatever you do, John, I will pray for God's blessings for you. I know how devastating it is for Episcopalians to watch their beloved church in such distress and led by heresiarchs and petty heretics. You may want to get a copy of The Book of Divine Worship used by the Roman Catholics of the Anglican Use.

(You can order one from Our Lady of Walsingham (office@walsingham-church.org) in Houston or the GIFT NOOK at Our Lady of the Atonement in San Antonio.)

80 posted on 04/28/2005 12:14:50 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Christianity is, by its very nature, joy -- the ability to be joyful." -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
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