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The 'gods' aren't happy with new pope
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 26, 2005 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 04/26/2005 9:41:36 PM PDT by DaveTesla

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To: DaveTesla

Nietzsche's 'transvaluation of all values' is the operative motivator behind the MSM wandos.

They've earned the monicker "perverts" in the very largest sense--not merely sexual--but in the sense of 'perversion' of right order and right thinking.

Which is why the MSM continues to play to a smaller and smaller audience.


21 posted on 04/27/2005 4:46:06 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: little jeremiah

"Contumacious" is an excellent word to have in your vocabulary...


22 posted on 04/27/2005 4:47:03 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: DaveTesla
Thanks for the post.

"She concluded with a plea from a 12-year-old girl begging for the same opportunities as boys. "

Seems to me to be a reflection on the parental climate today..... kids never hear 'no' because 'yes' requires less time and less explaination (or catechism in this example). It's the easy way to go.

23 posted on 04/27/2005 4:50:14 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
LOL!

Or relegating those ordained debauchers of boys to the status of 'useless eaters' who have no hope of recovery.

24 posted on 04/27/2005 4:54:12 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
The only thing that would make this ridiculous denouncement by the Left even more ridiculous would be if Martha Burke chained herself to a door at the Vatican.
25 posted on 04/27/2005 5:00:51 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: american colleen
The official church leaders (i.e., Benedict XVI & Co.) need to make it very difficult again to become a Catholic priest. They need to reinstitute requirements for intensive and long studies of Latin, Greek, philosophy and theology. A lot less time for clubbing and gourmet dining. Also, make it a requirement AGAIN that clergy wear their clerical garb.

Things got way too lax, too liberal and too flakey during the period of the great invasion by the Rainbow pederast crowd. The only way to protect the priesthood from sexual criminals is to make it a lot less attractive and less friendly to their lifestyle. There should be ABSOLUTELY NO BEACH RESORT VACATIONS for clergy. That will cut the numbers of fruitcakes down considerably. Keep them away from boys in swimsuits AT ALL COSTS. If they know they will never get access to that as priests, they won't seek clerical careers as a lifestyle option.

26 posted on 04/27/2005 5:03:41 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: DaveTesla; cyborg; fortunecookie

27 posted on 04/27/2005 5:08:27 AM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: little jeremiah; BykrBayb
This website will supply definitions or synonyms from multiple sources, to contrast and compare.
28 posted on 04/27/2005 5:11:13 AM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: ninenot
' "Contumacious" is an excellent word to have in your vocabulary...'

Yeah, and how about "banausic"?

(I had to look that one up)

And now spell check didn't even recognize it.
29 posted on 04/27/2005 5:14:31 AM PDT by Lakeside
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
While I agree that seminary admission and curriculum should be more intensive and require what you list, I don't know if it's fair to restrict a cleric's 'off time'? I see what you are getting at though...

I know several diocesan priests who have family money and who go off on hunting trips or fishing trips or golf resort trips. I'm sure you do as well. I also know someone who knows a very, very orthodox priest (nationally well known) who loves expensive dinners in fine restaurants accompanied by bottles of expensive wine. I'm never sure what to think of this. Was just thinking too, that one of the FR posters personally knows a very orthodox bishop here in the US who keeps a personal temp controlled wine cellar full of expensive wines.

30 posted on 04/27/2005 5:17:42 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: DaveTesla
"In the past 12 months, we have witnessed the abuse of young boys by homosexual pedophile predator priests who were supposedly leading them into a life of service to the God they claimed to serve. Yet the call goes forth for homosexuals to be ordained."

And how many times in the past 12 months have we been witness to story after story of male pig teachers molesting boys and girls and buxom young middle school teacher vixens with perky bosoms, pouty lips and black silk stockings with the little line that runs up the back and high heels and..... uh, um.... huh? Oh, sorry..., ahem...where was I?....., Oh yeah,...these slut teachers having sex with 13 and 14 year old boys?

What did Reg Weaver know and when did he know it?

31 posted on 04/27/2005 5:18:46 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Lakeside; ninenot

contumacious \kon-t(y)oo-MAY-shuhs; kon-tuh-\, adjective:
1. Exhibiting contempt for authority; obstinate; stubbornly disobedient.
2. (Law) Willfully disobedient to the summons or orders of a court.

As though our President didn't have enough to worry about, with the confusion on Kosovo policy and the collapse of the China World Trade Organization deal, now he must finally face the music on being contumacious about his concupiscence.
--Maureen Dowd, "Contempt, She Says," New York Times, April 14, 1999

A religious enemy... once described her as "an unstable, restless, disobedient and contumacious female."
--"Think Positive," The Economist, November 13, 1999






Contumacious derives from Latin contumax, contumac-, insolent.

Synonyms: obdurate, disobedient, perverse, unyielding, headstrong; find more at Thesaurus.com.


32 posted on 04/27/2005 5:19:57 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: Lakeside; ninenot

banausic

SYLLABICATION: ba·nau·sic
PRONUNCIATION: b-nôsk, -zk
ADJECTIVE: 1. Merely mechanical; routine: “a sensitive, self-conscious creature . . . in sad revolt against uncongenially banausic employment” (London Magazine). 2. Of or relating to a mechanic.
ETYMOLOGY: Greek banausikos, from banausos, mechanic.


33 posted on 04/27/2005 5:21:25 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: Lakeside; ninenot; All

I posted the above for anyone like me who hadn't heard of either word before. Excellent words! I may have to replace 'unctuous' as my favorite word with 'contumacious' which has found a warm place in my heart.


34 posted on 04/27/2005 5:24:00 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: american colleen
No, I'm sorry. As someone who actually worked at a Jesuit university, I have to say we need to eliminate TOTALLY all of the fun&leisure activities that attract people of low character to the priesthood. No boats or beach houses for clergy. No cruises, no luxury dining on church funds. Not with hundreds of millions of church funds disappearing because of queers that gravitate towards the leisure side of clergy life.

There are plenty of sick people in hospitals who need the sacraments brought to them during the summers. Men who prefer fun & leisure over sacramental work, need not apply to the Catholic priesthood. The beach houses that are owned by clergy should be sold and the funds should go back to the church to be used for scholarships for needs students or to pay the legal fees for the butt sex rape cases. We have to be brutally honest on these things. Being a Catholic priest is not "Spring Break."

35 posted on 04/27/2005 5:24:29 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
OK, so are you Father Corapi using an FR pseudonym??? ;-)

I tend to agree with you but realize you have been exposed to the Jesuits as they are today in the universities.... which contributes to your hard line.

I dunno... I'm 75% with you but I know what you propose would require a diocesan priest to take a vow of poverty. I don't think that would fly.

And I am violently opposed to leaving money to the Church.

36 posted on 04/27/2005 5:29:25 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: american colleen
I also know someone who knows a very, very orthodox priest (nationally well known) who loves expensive dinners in fine restaurants accompanied by bottles of expensive wine. I'm never sure what to think of this. 30 posted on 04/27/2005 8:17:42 AM EDT by american colleen

That's "gay" behavior, Colleen. The "priests" that are constantly chasing after lavish dinner parties, dining outings, who collect designer sweaters, etc., these are the fruitcakes. Who is PAYING for all of that stuff anyway? They have CLOSED parishes in Boston and New York because queer priests RAPED young teenage boys. No more expense accounts and Platinum AmEx cards for priests.

37 posted on 04/27/2005 5:29:30 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
The priest is for sure not gay but has developed a roman mentality from living in Rome for a long time. Apparently this is common place there. I can't say that I think men of God like Benedict XVI subscribed to it, but it is pervasive.

Maybe it goes along with the 'limo' mentality?

38 posted on 04/27/2005 5:32:02 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: american colleen
OK, nouveau tacky, then. Conspicuous prestige consumption is also a "compensation anxiety" behavior for people with low self-esteem. They have to keep demonstrating how much better they are, etc. What was absurd in the Jesuits was that some of the same fruitcakes preaching Liberation Theology Marxism and the "preferential option for the poor" to the students were the same ones arguing over who got to spend the summer at the beach house in Cape May, N.J. Unbelievable!

Just freaking UNBELIEVABLE!!!

One of those phony wackjobs is now president of a university.

I'm sure you have seen the articles about the priest who has the $3 million place in Cape Cop. He embezzled church funds to buy that for himself. Good grief, don't they ever audit these guys??? How did Paul Shanley have funds to buy a pedophile resort hotel?

39 posted on 04/27/2005 5:40:07 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Behaviour like that is pharasaical and I presume that politics have overcome their original intentions. It's just a pity that they are so blinded by it. I see it myself in some religious, ordained and otherwise.

I can't say if a taste for fine wine is a compensation anxiety to overcome low self esteem since I couldn't tell the difference between Mad Dog 20/20 and pouilly fuisse. So I will defer to anyone on this particular topic. :-)

The priest on the cape... yep, family money and embezzled funds to pay the 'caretaker' (wink, wink) - this is when brother priests need to speak up. No priest should live in luxury. But I don't know what you do about the diocesan vow not including one of poverty.

40 posted on 04/27/2005 6:03:40 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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