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1 posted on 04/25/2005 4:05:36 PM PDT by GB
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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me for the umpteenth time....


2 posted on 04/25/2005 4:07:28 PM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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If Frist accepts this "compromise" there'll be hell to pay. For one thing, Rush will roast him alive.


3 posted on 04/25/2005 4:08:02 PM PDT by Arkie2
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no


4 posted on 04/25/2005 4:08:11 PM PDT by firewalk
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Lets see im guessing this is how it will go...

Frist: YES
Reid: NO!!

Reid (next day): the Republicans refused the comprimise.
Frist(next day): The Minority Leader insisted on his obstruction.


6 posted on 04/25/2005 4:10:12 PM PDT by el_doctor2
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NO DEALS
9 posted on 04/25/2005 4:10:42 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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Reid: "You f'd up, you trusted us."


10 posted on 04/25/2005 4:10:50 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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If Reid is talking compromise, it's only because Frist has the votes. If Frist has the votes, he has only one course of action: VOTE.

Anything else will lose Republicans the majority in 2006. Take that to the bank.

12 posted on 04/25/2005 4:11:14 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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Who the He double L do those democrats think they are? This is crazy!


13 posted on 04/25/2005 4:11:26 PM PDT by GloriaJane ("Democrats Stop Playing Your Block And Blame Game" http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/gloriajanemusic)
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Why is Frist making deals....we are in the F'n MAJORITY......this really frosts me!
14 posted on 04/25/2005 4:11:31 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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If we make a deal with those snakes - you can KISS THE SENATE GOODBYE IN 2006 - THAT'S A DONE DEAL ON THIS SIDE.


15 posted on 04/25/2005 4:11:35 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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Oh boy! a deal... Is anyone as ticked off as I am by seeing that word? These senatorial republicans cant muster up the back bone to actully b***h slap the Democrats for their unamerican filibuster?! This is just another example of cowardice; Senator Frist, ALL OR NOTHING!
16 posted on 04/25/2005 4:11:43 PM PDT by blackeagle
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Bend over & lube up, the senate RINO's have caved, again.


21 posted on 04/25/2005 4:14:19 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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You don't have to excerpt Yahoo:





Frist, Reid Work on Judge-Approval Deal

2 minutes ago

By DAVID ESPO and JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON - In private talks with Majority Leader Bill Frist, the Senate's top Democrat has indicated a willingness to allow confirmation of at least two of President Bush's seven controversial appeals court nominees, but only as part of a broader compromise requiring Republicans to abandon threats to ban judicial filibusters, officials said Monday.



At the same time he offers to clear two nominees to the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals for approval, officials said Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., wants a third appointee to be replaced by an alternative who is preferred by Michigan's two Democratic senators.


The officials spoke only on condition of anonymity, citing the confidential nature of the conversations between the two leaders.


Reid issued a statement during the day saying he has had numerous conversations with senators in both parties in hopes of avoiding a showdown. "As part of any resolution, the nuclear option must be off the table," the statement concluded, referring to the GOP threat of banning judicial filibusters.


Majority Republicans have threatened for weeks to unilaterally change long-standing senatorial practices that Democrats used to block 10 of Bush's first-term appeals court nominations. The president has renominated seven of the 10 since winning re-election. Democrats, who argue the judges are too conservative to warrant lifetime appointments, have threatened to block them again with a tactic that requires supporters to post 60 votes before proceeding to a final roll call.


Frist and Reid have been discussing the overall issue privately for weeks, each man publicly stressing a willingness to seek a compromise while maneuvering for political advantage in the event of a showdown.


Apart from the seven controversial appeals court nominees, the issue is also seen as a proxy of sorts over future vacancies on an aging Supreme Court. Democrats fear Bush could have a second-term opportunity to shift the court rightward, possibly even ushering in a new era of hostility to abortion rights.


Officials said as part of an overall deal, Reid has indicated he is willing to allow the confirmation of Richard Griffin and David McKeague, both of whom Bush has twice nominated for the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals. At the same time, the Democratic leader wants the nomination of Henry Saad scuttled. Democrats succeeded in blocking all three men from coming to a vote in 2004 in a struggle that turned on issues of senatorial prerogatives as well as ideology.


Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., has led the opposition to all three men. In remarks on the Senate floor in 2004, he noted that Republicans had refused even to hold hearings on two nominees that former President Bill Clinton made to the 6th Circuit.


Spokesmen for Frist and Reid declined to comment on their private discussions, and no further details were available.


Other senators have referred vaguely in recent days to discussions surrounding Bush's 6th circuit nominations.


Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said Sunday there had been a "a lot of negotiations to try to get three judges from Michigan" confirmed.


Democrats drew criticism when they threatened to stop or slow the Senate's business if Republicans ban judicial filibusters. Party leaders began stressing an alternative approach during the day, attempting to force debate on their own agenda rather than the president's.


"I've always said that we'd make sure the Senate went forward, but we're going to do it on our agenda, not their agenda," Reid said.


Republicans can ban judicial filibusters by majority vote, and Democrats concede Frist may be only one or two votes shy of the necessary total. At the same time, internal GOP polling shows lagging public support, and no showdown is expected until next month at the earliest.


Senate Republicans have been warning Reid that Democrats could face a backlash if they stopped routine Senate business, noting that House Republicans and then-Speaker Newt Gingrich suffered politically after forcing a government shutdown in a 1995 budget fight with Clinton.


But Reid and other Democrats say they will let vital legislation out of the Senate. "I'm not Newt Gingrich," Reid said. "I understand how the body works. We're not going to close down the Senate. Far from it, we're going to have a very active Senate."


"Anything that's vital, we will continue to move forward on: money for our troops or a highway bill or a transportation bill," added Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., in a conference call. "But on other issues, what we are going to try to do is utilize the Senate rules to start focusing on issues that we think matter to the American people, whether it's gas prices or education or health care."

Reid on Monday also repeated his assertion that President Bush promised him that the White House would stay out of the Senate's fight over the filibuster rule. "He either misspoke or was not being honest with me a week ago last Wednesday when he said they would not be getting involved," Reid said.

Vice President Dick Cheney said Friday he would vote to ban the judicial filibuster if the Senate deadlocks, and called the Democrats' filibuster threats "inexcusable."

Senate Judiciary chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said on CNN Sunday that it was "really not helpful — and that's a very mild word — for Senator Reid to say that the president was not honest."

But Reid said there was no doubt what Bush meant when he said he would not get involved in the Senate fight. "It's not hard to understand when someone tells you: 'I'm not getting involved. That's a Senate problem, I'm not getting involved,'" Reid said. It's "a little hard to interpret that any other way."



22 posted on 04/25/2005 4:14:30 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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Hey Bill… never trust a snake. Never… never… never… never…


23 posted on 04/25/2005 4:14:38 PM PDT by auboy (The US Senate is guilty of dereliction of duty and abuse of power)
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24 posted on 04/25/2005 4:15:13 PM PDT by RonDog
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NO!!
27 posted on 04/25/2005 4:16:02 PM PDT by OXENinFLA ("Can't you people see there are guns here?!?!!! GET THE F$*& OUT!!" ~ Way of the Gun)
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First & his merry band of eunuchs are going to get snookered yet again by Senate 'Rats...


28 posted on 04/25/2005 4:16:09 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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Frist should tell them to ram it jam it and rotate it.


30 posted on 04/25/2005 4:16:44 PM PDT by Big Horn (We need more Tom DeLay's)
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The Dems are playing with a weak hand and they know it. I hope Frist knows it too...but I doubt that.


31 posted on 04/25/2005 4:16:57 PM PDT by PubliusEXMachina (Ashely's Story)
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This is BS. Nominating judges to the court id the privilege and domain of the president, NOT the minority party!!

Frist should tell Reid to stuff it . . . . but, in typical fashion, Frist will probably cave and tell everyone what a great deal he made!!


32 posted on 04/25/2005 4:18:00 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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