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There were 55 complaints. If you want to believe the complaints are false and those cadets are lying, you can do that. That would make it hard to explain why the faculty took it upon itself to discipline some officers.

Aggressive secularists, working through the courts, are the real systemic problem.

The complaints were filed by people of faith who didn't happen to share the same way of expressing their faith as other cadets and teachers. They were cadets who were enrolled in the Air Force Academy who wished to serve their country, and did not wish to have to join a Pentecostal congregation do that fully.

If some cadets don't like being told they will go to hell if they don't repent then they do not have the pschological strength required for the job

Again, you think that officers of the U.S. Air Force should be telling non-Protestant cadets they're going to Hell if they don't worship God the way they do? Forget whether or not you agree with them--is that consistent with how the U.S. military operates?

What the cadets say and learn about in their own chapel services

That's the stupidest red herring yet. Yes, this is really about atheists wanting to dictate what people say in their chapel services. You're twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to blame all those people who aren't tough enough to give up their faith and become Pentecostal or Baptist because that's what they should expect to do when they join the U.S. Air Force. And people wonder why it's a miracle when we get 50% of Catholics and 30% of Jews to vote for conservatives.

Now you are making stuff up and attributing it to me. I never said I believed the complantants were lying, just that the complaints are trivial crap that they ought to be able to deal with by telling the prostelizer to bump a stump. See that way both sides get to exercise their freedom of religion and their freedom of speech. The way you want to do it is that the Christians have to shut up because some other "person of faith" might get offended. You don't have a constitutional right to not be offended!

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Again, you think that officers of the U.S. Air Force should be telling non-Protestant cadets they're going to Hell if they don't worship God the way they do? Forget whether or not you agree with them--is that consistent with how the U.S. military operates?
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I say: Yes, ever since George Washington and a long line of overtly Christian practices ever since. We stopped after WWII and that is when we started losing. Remember Patton's prayer to change the weather so he could stop the Nazis in the Battle of the Bulge? It was distributed to the troops so they could all pray the same prayer.

I don't know if you realize it, but in Gulf War I there was a genuine revival among the troops. Our faith in God, the God of the Bible not some pagan block of stone, has served our military well, but that is not why it should be ok, it should be ok because it is the truth and because every American should have the right to give their opionion without the government jumping in and shutting them up. It is NOT the official postion of the Academy that non-protestants will go to Hell, it is the position of individuals within the Academy. It is thus not a state supported establishment of religion and the PC crowd should take a hike.

As for you deriding my claim that this is about athiests wanting to control what protestants say at their own chapel services- you should read the article again. The writer clearly uses quotes from chappel as an attempt to offend PC sensibilities.

You can go round and round with me on this but you are wrong on the facts, wrong on the History, and wrong on the Constitution. Also, we have long been silenced by this same kind of jive. No more.