[TXBSAFH]

Best way to hack a lib off, mention Christ.

[AntiGuv]

RSVP: "Respecting the Spiritual Values of all People"

[SkyPilot]

Ravi Zacharias said in all of history, the crowning figure of Jesus rises above all. No one will be able to dislodge Him.

Also, there are many, many, many Evangelicals serving in our military. They will be guided by the Holy Spirit, and will remain true. The acadamy is still light years ahead of 99% of college campuses out there in regards to true religious liberty. Most other campuses are boot camps for Marxists.

[GretchenM]

Cadets and employees are being told they can't proselytize on campus ...

1st Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Sounds like the "enlightened" at the Academy need a refresher course in civics. I hope this gets slammed down.

[raybbr]

About 90% of cadets here are Christian ...

That must kill them. They now feel the need to attack the Air Force Academy to show how much they despise God.

[Steel and Fire and Stone]

re:

" As the class ended, one participant, Lt. Col. Marcia Meeks-Eure, paused before leaving.

'I think this sort of thing is very good because it underscores what we are supposed to be doing," she said. "I am Baptist but I won't talk about my faith unless someone asks.'"

She evidently sees this result as an appropriate goal for the "RSVP" political/atheist indoctrination training. Christians will remain silent unless spoken too. Obviously, Lt. Col. Marcia does not need to refrain from her political, philosophical, or pseudo-religious point of view. She has a government sponsored and paid for platform to do just that, i.e. the RSVP class.

Christian's are striped of their Constitutional 1st Amendment rights. The ACLU's anti-religious viewpoint is endorsed and sponsored by the USAF; it becomes the state-sponsored religion (atheism) in direct violation of the establishment clause. This is the only logical, honest conclusion.

Now, if these cadets held mandatory "church", and mandatory "Bible Study" as part of their curriculum, under color of authority, there'd be a 1st Amendment problem. That is not what's occurring here. Even the Coaches banner is a personal, Constitutionally guaranteed statement of faith.

Otherwise, the U.S. Armed Services had better do some major recruiting amongst the "anti-war" (i.e. anti U.S.A.) atheists among the political left, because Christians will not fight for a Constitution where the 1st Amendment applies to everyone but Christians.

SFS

[Khurkris]

"Loosening Religious Grip at Air Academy"

Oh yeah...nothing biased in that title...no obvious agenda there...nooo sireee bub.

And another thing, did anyone else notice that it looked like all of the PC police mentioned were...female? Whats up with that?

[goldstategop]

Its all the Christians' fault! Its all Bush's fault too!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[RAY]

I'm told many military individuals have found God in a foxhole, shelled ship, or falling aircraft. Practice and visits with God are a good idea before these type events occur.

[JOE43270]

I've heard the saying for years "There are no aethists in foxholes". This U.S. Air Force Airman wants his aircraft leaving the runway with crews that believe in God because they are taking the foxhole to altitude. God Bless America and all Airman.

[ran15]

To me it sounds like they are trying to stop mainly inter-christian fueding.. Where one sect is accusing another group of not being the true path.

It doesn't seem like a great way to have team unity

[AmericanChef]

-He later removed it and underwent sensitivity counseling.-

Hope he survived.

[nevergore]

Everyone....

It is much worse at USAFA than the article represents....

My daughter is a cadet there and leads a prayer group...

She is also a Freeper (since 2000) Proud_to_be_an_American

I'll try to get her to logon later and explain exactly what is going on there. We talk to her daily....

Yesterday was Pinnacle (used to be called Recognition) so the Cadets scurried off base after the ceremonies....BTW, it's now called Pinnacle because Recognition (the tradition) was too exclusionary by the new Officer Staff.....

NeverGore :^)

[Orca]

Considering the source of this article--the Marxist L.A. Times--and the feminist, liberal tone, one has to recognize it for what it is: an attack on Christianity, pure and simple.

The RSVP class may be a good thing to curb youthful zeal that sometimes oversteps the bounds of propriety. However, the other restrictions are overreactions and an infringement on anyone's religious freedom.

Christianity and Christian organizations at USAFA have played a vital role in the good character development of cadets. As our society has experienced considerable moral decline in recent years, the caliber of new cadets has also declined. The traditional mores valued by the military--honesty, perseverance, self-sacrifice, courage, etc.--are increasingly difficult to find in the average new cadet. Therefore, character training at the the Academy has received a lot more attention in order to make up for what parents and public schools have failed to teach these youngsters as they were growing up. Many Christian organizations and local churches have stepped into the gap and been welcomed by the Academy as vital helpers in this character training effort. Similar efforts are in place at the USMA, the USNA, and the USCGA.

The battle success of the United States military has been positively affected by the presence of thousands of Christian officers and enlisted personnel who are the direct and indirect products of these Christian based character programs.

And, of course, the Marxist L.A. Times does not like this and so we see this article and other similar attacks in progress.

[Dumb_Ox]

I knew that govt. employees don't have full first amendment rights qua federal employees. I just never thought they'd include soldiers and cadets under the category of federal employees.

Does this rule also apply to chaplains?

[Dumb_Ox]

Does the rule even define what proselytizing is? It was never well-defined to begin with, and it has come to mean saying anything connected with religion

[narses]

Ping.

[F16Fighter]

At their (our) peril, U.S. Armed Forces without Christian Patriots ceases to exist as a viable fighting force -- despite what idiots like Jesse Ventura have to say about it.