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Interest in CS as a Major Drops Among Incoming Freshmen
Computing Research News ^ | 4/23/05 | Jay Vegso

Posted on 04/23/2005 8:30:02 PM PDT by anymouse

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To: supercat
As time goes by, hardware get smaller, faster, and cheaper. Software gets bigger, slower, and more expensive.

“Grove giveth, and Gates taketh away.”

-- Bob Metcalfe.

41 posted on 04/24/2005 9:15:53 AM PDT by dighton
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To: WOSG

"10 year later, and *still* MS is not as good as UN*X. "


Once again, another statement that proves how ignorant those in the industry really are.


42 posted on 04/24/2005 9:45:18 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Smogger

"Practically worthless, none of the programmers I know have them. Few jobs require them."

Yes, many jobs aim low.

" Get a degree in business if you are a good programmer, that way you can always start your own after working for someone else for awhile."

Talk about useless degrees ... 'degree in business' ... geez.
Very few of the hig-tech CEOs got their start from a 'degree in business'.

If you want to learn business, start one!


43 posted on 04/24/2005 12:29:42 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: WOSG
If you want to learn business, start one!

As someone who has started two businesses (not necessarily successful), you can learn a lot of what not to do by jumping into starting a business without formal business school training, but it will be a painful lesson. My suggestion is to work for a while in the industry you like and then go back to school (not necessarily a university) and learn some theory to augment your practical experience.

The challenge in going back into the Academic world after working in the "real world" is to avoid telling the instructor that they are full of crap too often. :)

Try to find instructors that themselves also work in the "real world" and teach part-time. This is good advice for whichever field that you study.

44 posted on 04/24/2005 4:25:10 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse

Outsourcing is devastating the field.


45 posted on 04/24/2005 4:26:38 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
There is a huge stockpile of former CS engineers HTML coders who thought they were CS engineers working at Home depot in case we need to organize a draft.
46 posted on 04/24/2005 4:29:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: anymouse

What I have learned after several degrees and a fair amount of life experience in more than one field

- What is taught in schools is only of passing relevance/significance to what is actually done in the real world.

- Your odds of succeeding in life are improved by going to one of the aforementioned schools.

There is a great paradox embedded in these two statements. I think what it says it that if you are innovative, talented and brilliant you don't need school. If you are something less than that, school will at least get you in the door - at which point you will sink or swim based on hard work, good luck, political astuteness, native ability and how you combine all fo those.


47 posted on 04/24/2005 4:38:51 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: anymouse

Duh!

Atleast SOMEONE gets it!

I wish ADULTS not in school would GET IT!!!

No one, I repeat NO ONE is OWED a LIVING. So start earning a living doing something else.


48 posted on 04/24/2005 4:40:48 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

Yay to your post!!


49 posted on 04/24/2005 4:41:41 PM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: anymouse
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
50 posted on 04/24/2005 10:21:16 PM PDT by sixmil (In Free Trade We Trust (faith-based economics))
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To: glorgau

"This is where the US still leads the world - in operational management."

The US leads the world in management, period.
We are the first nation to have built up management as a professional endeavour, and continue to lead.

see 'The Visible Hand' for a history of how modern management came about (in the railroads and factories of the late 19th century).


51 posted on 04/25/2005 11:26:39 AM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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