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Video shows policehandcuffing 5-year-old on video(Florida
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 4/22/05 | THOMAS C. TOBIN

Posted on 04/22/2005 11:55:08 AM PDT by Sertorius

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I handcuff my children all the time...lol

What are they supposed to do?

Can't spank them.

I guarantee anyone here that a wardaddy paddle spanking of about 3-5 licks woulda caused said hellion to cease and desist.

I don't see what the big deal is.

This reluctance to physically discipline wild children creates monsters in the future and makes for a lot of strife at home. So many folks I see today let the children literally run the home and to a degree...their lives.

All children are different ...of my four only one has really bucked me. I love him and respect his fire but I'll heat him up. I have to. It's my duty. Anything less and he will suffer for it down the road.

Things have sure changed fast since I was a lad 35-40 years ago.
121 posted on 04/22/2005 3:31:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (Cane Switch and Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: 6SJ7

Perfect quote. Spot on.

But of course, spanking would damage her self-esteem, so we can't have that.


122 posted on 04/22/2005 3:34:12 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: ARA
You don't handcuff a five year old child...

Pardon me for asking, but why not, if leaving the child unrestrained poses physical risk to him/herself or others, and the child has resisted less restrictive attempts to resolve the situation?

Are you suggesting that an alternate physical restraint be used, or that none at all should ever be considered regardless of the circumstances?

123 posted on 04/22/2005 3:43:03 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: ARA
What the hell is wrong today...

Quite a lot...where would we start?

The cops handcuffing a wild kid is not at the top of the list though.

I've already gotten some mileage out of this with my 4.5 year old wild man.

LOL....we saw the video on FOX....I told him...."See I told ya so...it can happen when you act ugly or don't listen to folks"...LOL....his eyes got big as moons.

124 posted on 04/22/2005 3:48:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (Cane Switch and Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: armymarinemom
Without ever being punished this little one better get used to the feel of handcuffs because she will be wearing them again in the future.

Yeah, that was my reaction to her too. I don't think you were seeing a garden variety temper tantrum. Something tells me this is just an omen of what is to come, especially given her mother's reaction.

In my admittedly limited experience, you just don't see many five year old girls assaulting their teachers. At that age, isn't it more typical for girls to actually like their teachers?

125 posted on 04/22/2005 3:49:21 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: ARA
I hope you never have children. You have no business telling the district police how to handle the case. They didn't beat her up with nightsyticks. They cuffed her.

That child needed to be restrained. Their options for restraining her were cuffs, hog tying, jail, or straight jacket. Which of the oother options would you choose?

This was supposed to have taught her what happens to people who behave as she was behaving. Let me ask you. Do you think that when she's 15 and acts like a criminal that she will be treated like a small child, or will they slap cuffs on her and haul her off to jail. She won't always be a cute little kid. You didn't offer any advice on how to handle it even though I asked for it in my last post. You don't have any answers. Just complaints.

They tried every touchy feely talky approach known to man. This kid is incorrigible, and receives no discipline at home. I am a mother and former law enfoircemetn officer. I have seen other people's children arrested, and swore that I would teach them as youngsters to behave and abide by the law.

This child's mother has taught her to disrespect teachers, police and every other authority figure. Soon, she will disrespect Mommy too. Heaven help the people around her then.

126 posted on 04/22/2005 3:59:32 PM PDT by passionfruit
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To: passionfruit

Amen!


127 posted on 04/22/2005 4:03:04 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: passionfruit

Well said!!!!


128 posted on 04/22/2005 4:05:25 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: blu
Please note: This was back in the day when kids could be bad, were punished with something stronger than no TV (if you had one!) and we usually learned our lessons the first time around.

Noted.......and remembered. I have a hard time with "kids" these days unless I spend some time with them. There are some you cannot turn around. Believe me.

FMCDH(BITS)

129 posted on 04/22/2005 4:41:47 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Txsleuth

"Now, maybe we SHOULD consider your words also....."

Well, now I'm on a mission! LOL!

Down with the Queen's English, up with the new and improved Americanized English.


130 posted on 04/22/2005 5:08:03 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (The Good News of the Gospel of Christ really is Good News!)
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To: Antonello

Please you have posed bo argument that presents a case for handcuffing this child...

She posed no risk to herself or anyone...

Cheers


131 posted on 04/22/2005 5:22:29 PM PDT by ARA
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To: passionfruit

I have two children passion... Good children... So I am sorry to sadden you... You are pathetic... The child should never have been handcuffed...

Clearly the child has behavorial problems and should be dealt with appropriately... a bunch of red neck florida cops are not what I call specialists... Just because they are police doesn't mean they are candidates for MENSA...

They are wrong to have cuffed this child...


132 posted on 04/22/2005 5:26:33 PM PDT by ARA
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To: Sertorius
Saw the video. This child was in dire need of what Ned Flanders referred to as the Wisconsin Spankological Protocol. I have no problem at all with what the police did.
133 posted on 04/22/2005 5:30:47 PM PDT by zook
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To: jwh_Denver

LOL---maybe we could call it, what? Ambonics?


134 posted on 04/22/2005 5:34:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: Sertorius

The principal, if that who the heavy set women is, handled herself well. The kid needed a good swat but of course she could not do that.


135 posted on 04/22/2005 5:35:01 PM PDT by BJungNan (Check out http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: ARA
If your children turned out alright, it must have been someone else's influence that taught them right from wrong. because in your book, children can do no wrong, and they should never ever be restrained.

Once again, you offer no wisdom on how this child SHOULD have been handled. Only criticism.

The teachers and principal are supposed to be experts, and they received college courses on dealing with kids. I'm sure they receive continuing education on how to deal with kids, but if you want to insist that they aren't expert, go right ahead. You have lost all credibility here anyway.

It has only been in recent years that we came up with the concept of discussing everything with kids and having no consequences for their bad behavior. You are spending your posts here defending an extreme minority view, that the dear little tyke should have had nothing more than a stern talking to over the violent and destructive acts she was carrying out. Did you miss the point that she was hitting people?

Will you recognize her in a few short years when you see her on "COPS" handcuffed again? She will be the one high on crack, beating up other people for money to support her habit because having been spoken to sternly as a child didn't leave a lasting impression on her. Now is when the adults in her life should be setting limits for her.

How dare you call me pathetic. You have no clue what you are talking about, and many freepers on this post have told you as much.

I have asked you for your idea of what should have been done, and you don't know. Clueless! The teachers, principal and campus police didn't have the sweet time that you have to come up with a solution. They had to deal with the problem child right then and there. On the spot, without consulting every soft headed do gooder that had opinions but no brains.

136 posted on 04/22/2005 5:49:04 PM PDT by passionfruit
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To: ARA

I'm sorry that you have children.


137 posted on 04/22/2005 5:50:44 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

Who are you jrabbit other than some two bit follower...


138 posted on 04/22/2005 5:58:32 PM PDT by ARA
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To: passionfruit

Passion...

Never said that the girl shouldn't have been restrained... please reread what I posted... I said the girl should never have been cuffed... Again, specialsts should have been brought in to deal with this not a bunch of red necks... "What should we do'" "Duh, I don't know...we could handcuff the five year old."

Please...


139 posted on 04/22/2005 6:01:13 PM PDT by ARA
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To: ARA

I stand by my original post to you.....especially after receiving the offensive private message you just sent to me.

Don't bother sending me any more of your filth. I won't be reading it. Or responding to you on this thread.

Have a nice evening...


140 posted on 04/22/2005 6:04:21 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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