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Georgia responsible for Soviet genocide, claims Russian ambassador to Ukraine
UPI ^ | Apr. 21, 2005

Posted on 04/22/2005 10:03:43 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

According to former Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, now Russian ambassador to Ukraine, Georgia is more to blame for the Soviet genocide against Ukrainians than Russia. Chernomyrdin told journalists, "If we speak about terror in the times of the U.S.S.R., as a result of that, the number of Russians killed was far greater than that of Ukrainians. We still cannot answer to our people for that. If anyone is to receive claims, address them to Georgia, the 'father of nations' Joseph Stalin was from that country." During the U.S.S.R.'s 1932-1933 collectivization drive, an estimated 5 million to 7 million Ukrainians in the "bread basket" of the U.S.S.R. perished during a famine deliberately instituted by Stalin.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chernomyrdin; genocide; georgia; realbadexcuse; russia; sovietunion; ukraine
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To: Destro

Sure, why not? But, they need to accept the responsibility that comes with it. Right now they're making really stupid mistakes as far as their neighbors are concerned. It's time for Putin to fire some advisors...


101 posted on 04/23/2005 1:23:21 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: Destro
Right, we're the bad guys and Russia is only doing the right thing by fighting us! /anti-American

I'm glad to see that you can at least finally admit that we are enemies!

102 posted on 04/23/2005 1:27:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Why do we sell F-15s to Saudi Arabia?


103 posted on 04/23/2005 1:40:43 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Romanov
I am just pointing out hypocrisy.
104 posted on 04/23/2005 1:41:14 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
For money.

Russia Says It's Ready to Arm Saudi Arabia

Saudis look to Russia for arms

105 posted on 04/23/2005 1:46:42 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Like I said - I am just pointing out hypocrisy. Be ready to blame or praise all sides.


106 posted on 04/23/2005 1:48:03 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: jb6
"6 million Jews in camps
6 million Poles in camps
1 million other Poles butchered, such as in Warsaw"

These numbers are wrong. I have already seen them. Are they from Russian history books ?

6 million Jews in camps ? No, about 6 million Jews died in WW2, but "only" about 3.5-4 million of them were killed in the camps.

6 million Poles in camps ? No, about 6 million Poles died in WW2, about half of them were Polish Jews, so you shouldn't count them twice, besides "only" a few hundred thousand of them were killed in camps, a few hundred thousand were also killed by Soviets, especially in 39-41, near the end and soon after WW2, when NKVD was fighting against "coutr-revolutionists".

BTW Is someone, who kill 3 people in 2 hours better than someone, who kill 4 people in 10 hours ?
107 posted on 04/23/2005 1:57:17 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Destro
What is hypocritical? We don't want Russia to sell the Communist maniac Chavez guns because he is a dangerous lunatic. Russia doesn't want us to sell to Saudi Arabia? It must be because they want the market for themselves. It can't be because they don't want Saudi to be armed since they want to arm them themselves! This must be the same reason they are arming Syria, Iran and all the rest of our Islamic enemies.

Yeah right, it's all for the money, not because they want to counterbalance America's power in the world, as they've repeatedly stated is their goal, which is supported wholeheartedly by their sycophants, Chavez, Mugabe, Kim, and Chirac!

The cold war WAS over, but stupid Putin has brought it back! The result will be the same!

108 posted on 04/23/2005 1:59:24 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Destro
Maybe I am hypocrite, but I think that people should treat their own country different than "other sides".
109 posted on 04/23/2005 2:00:17 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
Destro doesn't know what it means to root for his own side.
110 posted on 04/23/2005 2:05:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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MORE STALINISM FROM THE VOICE OF MOSCOW

jb6 defends Stalin from charges of Anti-semitism. (Stalin supported Israel!)

jb6 defends Stalin's body count (He couldn't possibly have killed THAT many)

Stalin had two things going for him that endeared a desperate people (He was so austere and unyielding!)

111 posted on 04/23/2005 2:09:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Grzegorz 246
Guess all the American statistics are wrong, since 12 million in the camps, half of them Jewish is what is the standard statistics as far as I was taught, in US schools and university. Lets see, half of 12 million is what?

So by your words, I guess the Nazis weren't that bad to you?

BTW Is someone, who kill 3 people in 2 hours better than someone, who kill 4 people in 10 hours ?

No, I'd say they're worse.

112 posted on 04/23/2005 2:19:05 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Got the proof yet? We're all still waiting.


113 posted on 04/23/2005 2:20:04 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So if one wants the ultimate blame for WW2 being what it was, one should put it where it truly is deserved, on the shoulders of Chamberlin and his French counterpart. The tragic events of 1939-1945 and beyond began when Hitler marched his army (and he marched them 3 or 4 times, busing them out during the night to re-march again) into the Rhineland and the British/French ran away.

This is your proof? Oh gads are you full of it. Go read some books. Go read "The German Generals Speak." Written from british interviews with captured German generals starting in 1942. The German generals admitted that if the British had shown any resolve in the Rhine they would have used that as an excuse to remove Hilter and bring back the Kaiser.

Gads, you really are full of it.

114 posted on 04/23/2005 2:22:42 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Or do you dispute the historic fact that Chamberlaine turned down Stalin's offer for a tripple alliance against Hitler in the mid 1930s?


115 posted on 04/23/2005 2:23:26 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
jb6 defends Stalin and Hitler's partition of Poland.

To: dfwgator

The lands that Stalin took, look a little closer: are Ukrainian and Belarussian lands, that Poland took in 1919. In exchange, in the long run, Poland was given German Silesia and East Prussia.

27 posted on 03/31/2005 1:58:49 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)

Nice try, dispute that those lands were Ukrainian and Belarussian. Lvov was the main Ukrainian oblast. In return the Polish were given historic Polish lands in Posen, Silasia and Prussia. Or do you dispute those lands. Oh and by the way, this is not defending Stalin and Hitler's partition of Poland, since obviously Poland exists and received territories. So your lies still stand. Surprise surprise. Boy you're digging, as usual.

116 posted on 04/23/2005 2:26:16 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
jb6 defends Stalin (Not excusing Stalin BUT...)

To: attiladhun2

They were allies but out of necessity. In 1937 Stalin went to Britian and France to form a new alliance to curtail Germany. When he was rebuffed by Chamberline and his ilk, he went to Germany to buy himself time to build up and attack them. Not excusing Stalin for his crimes and those are legion, but a lot of WW2 could have been avoided if France and England had had a spine.

40 posted on 03/07/2005 1:06:03 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

This is defending Stalin? Oh gads, you are pathetic.

117 posted on 04/23/2005 2:28:23 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6
Stalin had to join up with Hitler to partition Poland! Those linguine-spined French MADE him do it!


"Look what they made me do"

118 posted on 04/23/2005 2:29:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
not excusing Stalin, BUT...

To: swilhelm73

True, they did, and not excusing Stalin, but he did that after England and France turned him down for an alliance to hem in Germany. They were hoping that Stalin and Hitler would just have their own little war and leave them be. This might be why they didn't give Poland any aid, hoping the two would go at it.

62 posted on 12/22/2004 8:00:53 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Again, you can't pin anything so you try to take things out of context but even there you fail as miserably as usual. You are worth the entertainment value.

119 posted on 04/23/2005 2:30:11 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6
Oh and don't forget such units as the Latvian Rifles supporting the Communists. Let me guess, they were Russians too? /sarcasm

You failed to mention red commandos unit from Luxemburg! haha
120 posted on 04/23/2005 2:32:05 PM PDT by Lukasz
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