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To: Alamo-Girl
... you, PatrickHenry, have finally convinced me that the ID v evolution debate will become a political football. Not because it is political or should be, but because the Democrats are making it one.

Well, A-Girl, if I've convinced you, I've accomplished something of value. But I'm not sure what you're getting at here:

If we are right about this turning political, the liberal candidates will themselves raise the issue in the next general election campaign for national office under the presumption that the intelligentsia will shame the religious into voting Democrat. On that point they may well again have misunderestimated the Christians like they did in letting homosexual rights onto the front burner. IOW, it just might backfire on them.

If this becomes a big issue in the next election cycle, I don't think anyone now committed to creationism/ID will be "shamed" into voting with the dems. And I doubt that will be the dems' goal. Rather, these elections are always fought over the undecided voters. The danger I see will become very real if the republicans are foolish enough to make support for creationism a party position. In that case, the dems will certainly try to showcase the conservatives as unscientific buffoons.

27 posted on 04/22/2005 9:12:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I will be fired from Darwin Central for saying this, but I'm not sure being identified with creationism is a net loss for Republicans in the voting booth.

Where it is a net loss is in attracting otherwise conservative university and media people. I find that most youn people are conservative except when it comes to creationism.


28 posted on 04/22/2005 9:29:35 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: PatrickHenry
Thank you for your reply!

Indeed, I do not expect this initiative to sway any decided voters at all. Nor do I expect that they would believe it is possible to do so.

I suspect their motive is to paint (for the undecideds) that conservatives are people who believe in a 6000 year old universe.

Personally, I know of no politician who would pick YEC as a platform - or any particular doctrine. Whereas politicians are generally Christian they are rarely dogmatic. Most wouldn't even be able to argue the doctrines.

The liberals are backing themselves into a theological corner - in a campaign, to raise this issue they will have to argue doctrine. Doctrinal debates are always contentious - troubling everyone who doesn't fully agree.

31 posted on 04/22/2005 10:10:45 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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