Redefine the church

Ny Daily News ^ | April 21, 2005 | Stanley Crouch

[presidio9]

Incidently, Stan, if you are going to try to sound like an informed person providing advice to "the church," you might want to start by capitalizing proper nouns.

[cyborg]

Well...not as bad as the other pronouncements from liberals sitting on their thrones.

[presidio9]

No, but he still manages to get into it all, without actually going into specifics.

[wideawake]

Hey Stan, how's that authorized biography of the Bird coming?

What? Thirty years and still no manuscript?

Maybe you should stick to what you know.

[conservonator]

Is Stan trying to say that the world blows and it's the Pope's responsibility to clean it up, but not by being an orthodox Catholic Pope? Is that about it?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

And he still wants the church to reflect his package of values, instead of shape his conscience according to the teachings of the church.

Which is probably one of the reasons why he is what he is.

[brooklyn dave]

Faithful Catholics should revive that old peacenik song with new lyrics "ALL WE ARE SAYING, IS GIVE POPE A CHANCE"

[St. Johann Tetzel]

I find the Catholic Church one of the most uplifting organizations ... But

With liberals, everything that comes after the "but" is BS.

[frogjerk]

Of course, we all know it looked the other way when Adolf Hitler and his murderous, jack-booted buffoons strode this bitter Earth.

?

[taxesareforever]

I gather Stan wants the Catholic Church to be a secular organization that will take care of the problems in the world. Forget about the souls of people, fix the physical things. Barf

[littlelilac]

well didn't Pope John Paul II apologize about the fact the Vatican didn't do or say more during WWII, though I agree it is hardly fair to blame the Vatican, they were in fascist controlled Italy during the war, and people of all religious backgrounds co-operated or colloborated with the Nazis, even Jews, it was do or die for most, the Nazis didn't give you much options

[littlelilac]

Like the UN? LOL

[presidio9]

The thing I don't get is this: I thought the liberals wanted the Church to go away, and let the smarter people who used to run our government before the red states got rid of them to solve all our problems (as your screen name suggests).

[adgirl]

I have had enough of this crap about the Catholic Church "looking the other way during the Holocaust." That is not true. The Catholic Church stood up to the Nazis, many priests and nuns were thrown into concentration camps for speaking out against Hitler. Thousands of Catholic families hid Jews from the Nazis. It is an unfair and untrue statement. Where the hell were the Unitarians during Hitler's reign of terror, or the Lutherans for that matter, did they stand to Hitler as group like the Catholic Church? I sure haven't heard about it.

[adgirl]

Sorry, too much coffee.

[presidio9]

Saint Edith Stein, whose Sainthood (by John Paul The Great) some liberal pundits had the temerity to suggest was a basis for Christian-Jewish hostility.

[Tax-chick]

Who's this putz?

[presidio9]

Sorry. Typo. That putz is NY Daily New's resident know-it-all Stanley Crouch.

[d-back]

Amen, Adgirl. If coffee prompted your accurate post on how the Church fought the Nazis, keep drinking that coffee!

[presidio9]

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