Posted on 04/21/2005 10:25:21 AM PDT by sergey1973
I don't believe it.
This is a page out of manual, used before many times.
The Russians may or may not leave Tajikistan, but the world (and the Tajiks) will never know when, how or why.
THAT is Russian s.o.p., imho.
PING ! Interesting Analysis about fmr. Soviet Republic Tajikistan and the current and future Russian role in the securing Tajik-Afghan border from Drug Flow. I also wonder if US need to create more militarized structure to patrol US-Mexico Border too. There are quite a number of dangerous illegals coming across the border along with those who come in search of economic opportunities. Minutemen civilian volunteer project is a success, but what about the long term solution ? Your thoughtful opinion is always welcome.
P.S.
I know folks that many of you on the same forums often end up fighting each other. I'm asking you to avoid it and stay on the topic. Thanks.
OK--do you have a concrete evidence to the contrary from other news sources that this info from Jamestown Foundation Eurasia Daily Monitor is a hoax ? Also, whom would you prefer to patrol Tajik-Afghan border that is awashed with Drug Traffickers ? I'm ready to accept any point of view as long as a concrete evidence presented.
The only concrete evidence I have of the "Soviet manual" is their track record since they were the USSR.
They are certainly allowed to control their borders. I am all for it. They should and it's a good thing. I wish we would do it.
I just don't like being sold a bill of goods.
This is a bill of goods, torn from the pages of their manual -- "How to sell an idea to the rest of the world, no matter how silly it really is."
They won't pull out of or away from Tajikistan, ever. They are on their Chinese border forever.
Just don't try to tell me that it's otherwise. I don't buy it.
Securing, LOL? I expect heroin prices will drop due to reduced payments to Russian border "guards".
Who do you think has been protecting Tajikistan from the Talibs and drug runners for the past 15 years? Who do you think has been helping cut the flow of opiates from Afghanistan into Europe and America? It sure as hell hasn't been the Tajiks. Bad mouthing the men who risk their lives daily is not much of an sop.
It's not easy though when our military is alread stretched out over Iraq and Afhanistan.
There just aren't enough men recruits soldiers to go around.
Can we out-source it, do you think? The Russians would be good at it, though I might cavil at their integrity about drug$$.
How many nations have we left (except for Haiti, though we return all the time) in the past 15 years?
I guess you just can't read.
I didn't cavil at their being there....just that they were trying to convince the rest of the world that they would be leaving.
Please try to READ my posts first before you dispute them.
Thank you.
You are making only references to the Soviet past than to the present. If you have a concrete source of information that Roger McDermott of Jamestown Foundation published a hoax on its website, then I will accept your point of view.
Jamestown foundation--a Cold War era Analytical American Institution specializing in fmr. Soviet Union--has a network of experts all over former USSR and they have their independent sources of info. Would they put a hoax if they have so many alternative resources of the info on the ground ? Either give me a concrete evidence to the contrary, or I will assume that it's just your guessing game. Sorry, but I'm not buying every assertion too.
10 every 7 years. 16 mo. old grandson in lap, pushing buttons & rearranging office.
"Of course Tajikistan will be still in Kremlin’s sphere of the influences, in this region it is hard not to be… especially with their poor economy. "
At this point, Lukasz, being in Kremlin Sphere of Influence is better then being in that of Saudi Arabia. Plus if US and Russia will cooperate rather then strategically compete in Central Asia, it will be great for all sides.
I've been in the region. There are daily firefights between the russian guards and the traffickers/jihadis. T-stan is sort of the Walmart of Islamic Radicals, a little bit of everything going on there.
I agree cooperation in this region would be benefit for all interested sides.
The Russians need more troops not less in the area and if we were smart, we'd put quite a bit of money into helping them directly. Beats the hell out of having to fight the war on drugs in our own streets.
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