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To: Labyrinthos
You are asking for "objective" evidence of a supernatural event?

Why not take it on faith like we have to with macro-evolution? You know as well as I that evolution is taught as fact in schools when it is not fact - it is a theory that attempts to codify "scientific" observations. Many of these observations are not factual and some have even been recanted by science - yet they remain part of the logic that produced the theory. That is NOT objective science.

Creationism isn't currently being taught in public schools and thus are being required to prove the validity of the "theory". Darwinism is being taught and never went through this process of providing proof to be added to curriculums. Why the different standards?

I am a creationist that firmly believes in micro-evolution (according to its "kind"). Though I doubt all of it is in direct contradiction with the Bible, macro-evolutionary theory has yet to provide provable answers.

At what point do we finally admit to school kids that Darwinism is only a theory and there are other theories?

8 posted on 04/21/2005 5:23:17 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country!)
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To: DesertSapper
You are asking for "objective" evidence of a supernatural event? Why not take it on faith like we have to with macro-evolution?

I'm not going to allow you to change the rules to my "challenge." If you can't follow directions, then don't waste bandwidth with an irrelevant response. With that said, I do appreciate your admission that creationsism is not "science," but rather a "supernatural event." Supernatural events have no place in science class.

21 posted on 04/21/2005 6:05:41 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: DesertSapper
Why not take it on faith like we have to with macro-evolution?

Calling something "faith" doesn't make it so.

Evolution fit's the evidence in hand.

The evidence of religion is that few can agree on exactly what the Bible actually means. Note the various denominations, and the fact that even creationists fall into different camps of old-earth and young-earth, and various forms in between. It's awfully hard to take the few hundred words in the creation stories in Genesis and extrapolate them into what we see around us without different people disagreeing.

But in science, the fields of geology, biology, genetics and more all agree with each other. "Macro" Evolution is how the world works. My belief is that God created Evolution first.

25 posted on 04/21/2005 6:15:47 AM PDT by narby
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To: DesertSapper
Many of these observations are not factual and some have even been recanted by science - yet they remain part of the logic that produced the theory.

Here are some creationst frauds, at least one of which will show up on every crevo thread, and which are never challenged by creationists.

  1. The Cardiff Giant
  2. Carl Baugh's Humanus Bauanthropus (Moab Man)
  3. The Burdick mantrack
  4. W Cooper's Guadeloupe Man:
  5. F Naverra's Wood from Noah's Ark
  6. Don Patton's Malachite Man
  7. Paluxy footprints
  8. Calaveras skull
  9. Daniel Wirth and the power of prayer over pregnancy
  10. The Da Vinci Code
  11. The Bible Code
  12. ‘Darwin recanted on his deathbed’
  13. ‘NASA computers, in calculating the positions of planets, found a missing day and 40 minutes, proving Joshua’s “long day” and Hezekiah’s sundial movement of Joshua 10 and 2 Kings 20.’
  14. ‘Moon-Dust thickness proves a young moon’
  15. ‘Woolly mammoths were snap frozen during the Flood catastrophe’
  16. ‘The Japanese trawler Zuiyo Maru caught a dead plesiosaur near New Zealand’
  17. ‘The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics began at the Fall’
  18. ‘Women have one more rib than men.’
  19. ‘No new species have been produced.’
  20. ‘Earth’s axis was vertical before the Flood.’
  21. The speed of light has decreased over time
  22. ‘Gold chains have been found in coal.’

26 posted on 04/21/2005 6:16:05 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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