Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Investigators: Keeper Left Chimps' Cage Unlocked
(AP)KCAL9 ^ | Apr 20, 2005 1:55 pm US/Pacific | (AP)

Posted on 04/20/2005 5:22:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last

1 posted on 04/20/2005 5:22:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
"Chealander said the chimps probably escaped because, unbeknownst to Brauer, they had learned to reach through the wire mesh and push up the pin that held the door in place -- a trick investigators saw the female chimps perform during a March 10 visit."
2 posted on 04/20/2005 5:22:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

The keeper should be tossed to lions.


3 posted on 04/20/2005 5:24:01 PM PDT by GSlob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
Operator won't be charged in sanctuary chimp attack
4 posted on 04/20/2005 5:27:13 PM PDT by hole_n_one
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

I've always wondered, and perhaps someone can tell me, why is it that chimps are so much stronger than us? Do they have a much lower adrenaline threshhold? Is it a matter of physics? I know they are much smaller. They say a chimp can effective bench the equivalent of 1200 lbs which is just astounding. I'm very large and I've only approached 400 lbs.


5 posted on 04/20/2005 5:29:44 PM PDT by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
This was and remains, so horrible. Am glad to see an update as did wonder what happened post 'media'. . .

Am shocked to learn that this poor man is not yet aware of his own condition at this point; though perhaps he knows, at some level. . .would not want to be there when he wakes up.

That said; I would not want to wake-up; at all. . . .

6 posted on 04/20/2005 5:40:49 PM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoDak

Their arms must be all muscle. Consider how they constantly climb and swing, using their arms.


7 posted on 04/20/2005 5:45:14 PM PDT by Cecily
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Cecily

Yeah, but my niece and nephew do that constantly and I can still beat them up ;)


8 posted on 04/20/2005 5:46:17 PM PDT by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SoDak

why is it that chimps are so much stronger than us?

I think the reason is because chimps are quadrupeds. Humans have a lot of strength in their buttocks (for locomotion) and chimps has no buns but a lot of upper body strength.

9 posted on 04/20/2005 5:55:24 PM PDT by elli1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
Animals are smarter than we give them credit for. We used to have three English Mastiffs and we built a chain link kennel in the back yard. They were forever getting out. I watched them when they didn't know I was there and they took turns trying to lift the handle kept the kennel closed. They were using their paws, and weren't successful at lifting it. If they had used their noses, they could have gotten it open easier.

We now have a Belgian Malinois who tries to turn the doorknobs in the house with her mouth. She has successfully turned the deadbolt too.

As intelligent as chimps are, I'm surprised that they don't automatically use a double lock deadbolt, that needs keys to open from either side.

10 posted on 04/20/2005 5:56:12 PM PDT by passionfruit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Cecily

"a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds."


11 posted on 04/20/2005 5:57:38 PM PDT by Arbuthnaut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: elli1

Yeah, but I can't even leg press 1200 lbs.


12 posted on 04/20/2005 6:00:26 PM PDT by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
This is the couple that was visiting the sanctuary to see their former "pet" that had attacked someone (a child I think), right? They were forced to get rid of the animal after that incident.

I'm very sorry to hear of his devastating injuries but it sounds like they are the poster couple for reasons NOT to try to domesticate chimps and other critters.

13 posted on 04/20/2005 6:01:32 PM PDT by TNdandelion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
. . . feces he inhaled while wrestling with the chimp in the dirt . . .

Well, I'll not complain about having a bad day. That's for sure.

14 posted on 04/20/2005 6:14:50 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoDak

Well, of course, they'd need all that body strength and "monkey grip" to swing and scamper through the treetrops without falling, so nature gave them the equipment for it. The explanation of how they achieve such robust musculature is a mystery to me. But it's something I've noticed throughout the animal world. I'd say pound-for-pound almost any animal is stronger than a human being. They've got a bigger bite, too. Thank goodness we rely on our wits to defend ourselves, or we'd end up on every carnivore's dinner plate. When we lose our wits -- LIKE NOT LOCKING THE F'ING CAGE -- we realize just how puny we are, physically.


15 posted on 04/20/2005 6:26:50 PM PDT by Harpo Speaks (Honk! Honk! Honk! Either it's foggy out, or make that a dozen hard boiled eggs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SoDak

Yeah, but I can't even leg press 1200 lbs.

But if that ability was a condition of your survival, you would be able to.

16 posted on 04/20/2005 6:37:25 PM PDT by elli1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: SoDak
I've always wondered, and perhaps someone can tell me, why is it that chimps are so much stronger than us?

I've heard that part of it is not muscle mass or tone, but points of attachment -- leverage. As I understand it, chimp muscles are attached further up from the joints -- which gives the muscles better leverage. This trades strength for speed of movement. You can outjab a chimp, but once he gets hold of you, he'll tear your head off. Also, as pointed out by another poster, they're disproportionately large above the waist in comparison to humans. A chimp's forearms are huge.

17 posted on 04/20/2005 6:55:54 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: TNdandelion

>> "This is the couple that was visiting the sanctuary to see their former "pet" that had attacked someone (a child I think), right?" <<

Not exactly. If I remember correctly, it was a woman who had long red fingernails and who was feeding something to the chimp. The chimp thought the fingernail was candy or something , and bit a finger off.


18 posted on 04/20/2005 7:11:11 PM PDT by sd-joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Pearls Before Swine

That's what I was thinking I'd heard too, that there were points of physics involved, in addition to connective tissue and such. I wonder what competitive advantage came from us becoming weaker. Perhaps the fine movements of the hands meant a need for sacrificing strength. Who knows.


19 posted on 04/20/2005 8:01:48 PM PDT by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: passionfruit

I have had cats that could turn unlocked doorknobs.


20 posted on 04/21/2005 1:35:35 AM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson