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To: Modernman
Our Constitution, in many important aspects, is a social contract. -- You are trying to alter the terms of that contract by infringing on my right to bear arms on the way to & from work.

Not at all.

You're in denial about the facts surrounding the effort of employers to ban guns. It's a blatant effort to 'privatize' gun control, cloaked in 'property rights'.

Even if I ban guns from my property, you are free to have a gun on your way to and from my property.

Not in the real world of massive company parking lots, and no off site parking available.

It's your problem if you can't figure out how to do that and also follow my rules on my personal property. As a private property owner, I am under no obligation to help you exercise your Constitutional rights.

Not true. All citizens are obligated to support & defend Constitutional rights. You keep ignoring this fact. Why is that?

Park elsewhere. Car pool with someone who works at a place that doesn't ban guns. Rent a storage locker across the street. Quit and take another job at a company that doesn't impose such rules. Whatever. It's your problem, not mine.

Again, thank you Ms Brady.. Feel proud of your modern stance.

385 posted on 04/22/2005 9:31:00 AM PDT by P_A_I
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To: P_A_I
You're in denial about the facts surrounding the effort of employers to ban guns. It's a blatant effort to 'privatize' gun control, cloaked in 'property rights'

... Not in the real world of massive company parking lots, and no off site parking available.

There we go. You are afraid of a defacto, private ban on guns. Right. Well yes it could happen in big companies.

But I am concerned about a government ban of property rights. The difference is that there are a lot more private companies than there are governments. And the government has police power, the right to confiscate property, to fine you and to put you in jail.

If the government takes away your property rights, they will be able to purchase your gun rights. That is what happened to the airlines. They cannot operate without permission of multiple government agencies. And so they ban guns on airplanes.

This is happening in a lot of areas. People are being told they have to employ transsexual cross-dressers. Boy scouts and churches are being pressured to hire homosexuals. Businesses and institutions are forced to incorporate or become non-profits to avoid litigation and taxes. And the Faustian contract is that they bargain away their Constitutional rights as a consequence.

If the government has the right to control your property, then your RKBA is gone.

389 posted on 04/22/2005 10:05:37 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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