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To: Military family member
even Bach's great music was considered radical when first played in church.

Oh, please. Are you seriously suggesting equivalency? The formulaic slop played at teen masses is the antithesis of radical; it's conventional down to the core. Bach's music will still be astonishing hearers when no one remembers what a teen mass even was.

my 15-year-old son, with whom I have been struggling to keep him interested in his faith, is suddenly very interested in the church because he gets to play two weekends a month.

I sympathise with your situation, but respectfully suggest your real problem here is bad religious formation. Your son needs to have it put to him that right worship is about far more than self-expression. When the "faith" we practice is utterly self-referential, it's nothing more than self-worship. Self-absorption is the dominant secular value, and I'm not surprised to read that your son too is slurping it up. But the Church's job is to rescue us from that prison, not to affirm it.

324 posted on 04/20/2005 7:29:16 AM PDT by Romulus ("Andiamo avanti. Il Signore ci aiuter e Maria sua Santissima Madre star dalla nostra parte.")
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To: Romulus

You've obviously read your Ratzinger...


330 posted on 04/20/2005 7:40:24 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Romulus; Military family member

BTW, I doubt that Bach's "stuff" was radical in its day.

JSB took what already existed and built on it. He used a number of Gregorian Chant tunes (!!) as well as popular hymnody as foundation for most of his music.

Evolution, yes. Revolution? Nope.


344 posted on 04/20/2005 8:49:24 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Romulus
When the "faith" we practice is utterly self-referential, it's nothing more than self-worship. Self-absorption is the dominant secular value, and I'm not surprised to read that your son too is slurping it up. But the Church's job is to rescue us from that prison, not to affirm it.

Did you catch Arroyo's interview with then Cardinal Ratzinger on EWTN that they played after his election yesterday? It was done about 18 months ago and is the only existing recorded interview with the Cardinal in the English language.

Anywas he said almost exactly the same thing that you are saying above. I believe his words were "the Mass is where we come to meet the transcendent God" He talked about the "reform of the reform" specificially to re-sacralize the mass that had been distorted after VII into some type of "communal expression".

I am very hopeful for what Benedict XVI may accomplish. The sad fact is tho his effectiveness will be limited until he can begin to name some Bishops.

351 posted on 04/20/2005 10:15:40 AM PDT by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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