[what's up]

(Rom 11:5 KJV) Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

This scripture pretty much sums up all your other Romans scriptures. The key word is "remnant". Paul was saying God had not totally rejected Israel. Just as he was saved, so are some other Israelites saved. However, not ALL Israel...not the country of Israel.

[Cecily]

Read Zechariah, Chapters 12-14. That is not the church being described. It is the nation of Israel.