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Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Advocates Step Up Efforts to Counter Anti-Gay Religious
US Newswire ^ | 4/19/05 | AP

Posted on 04/19/2005 12:27:44 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Inga Sarda-Sorensen of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Community Center, 212-620-7310, ext. 230

News Advisory:

-- Timely Issue of Anti-Gay Religious Bigotry is the Focus of April 21 Forum; Leaders from All Faiths are Urged to Join the Effort and Reclaim the Notion of What it Means to be 'Moral' in America

Fed up with being portrayed by conservative and right-wing religious leaders as the antithesis of all things moral, lesbian and gay people are stepping forth to shatter the notion that they are somehow "ungodly," "unworthy" and incapable of possessing spiritual and religious values -- and they're urging leaders of all faiths and orientations to join them. This hot-button issue is the focus of a forum titled Turning It Around & Taking It Back: Religion Activism in a Time of Dissent, on Thursday, April 21, 7 p.m., at the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Community Center, 208 West 13th Street, New York City. Suggested donation: $6.

How does one counter the anti-gay rhetoric, and what role should progressive religious institutions take in fighting bigotry? How can liberal people of faith reclaim what it means to be "moral" in America?

"Tough questions, but questions we absolutely must tackle," says Amy Lavine, co-founder of Out & Faithful: LGBT People, Religion and Spirituality, a program of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Community Center. "Rather than sitting by passively -- and getting pummeled by the right wing -- we're entering this national discourse and turning around the discussion to focus on what we see as unifying values. We hope this inspires others to work against the polarization in our country. We hope it encourages dialogue, rather than confrontation."

Panelists include the Rev. Jimmy Creech of Soulforce, Debanuj Dasgupta from Queer Immigrant Rights Project, Rev. Valerie Holly of Unity Fellowship of Christ Church and Jay Michaelson from Nehirim: A Spiritual Initiative for LGBT Jews.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; religiousleft; repentamerica
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To: Clint N. Suhks

They will fail. This Papal appointment has the stamp of God's approval on it, and for a reason. We now have a Pope who is going to grapple with the great moral questions of the day - those who are opposed to that message are simply out of luck.

Regards, Ivan


21 posted on 04/19/2005 12:42:46 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
How can liberal people of faith reclaim what it means to be "moral" in America?

Excellent question!! The answer is to remember that Christ came into the world to forgive sin, not to tolerate it.

22 posted on 04/19/2005 12:45:01 PM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: Clint N. Suhks

They won't ever give up, will they? I can see them after they pass on to the other side, taking their case to God, trying to get Him to accept their lifestyle.


23 posted on 04/19/2005 12:45:34 PM PDT by Luna (Evil will not triumph...God is at the helm)
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To: Paloma_55
And of course, they will look for the wild-eyed mouth-foamers to substantiate their rhetoric.

In your haste to slam conservatives you also have slammed our new Pope...nice job "communicating" there.

24 posted on 04/19/2005 12:46:10 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: Exposure To The Son May Prevent Burning.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Join the Effort and Reclaim the Notion of What it Means to be 'Moral' in America

This would imply that, at some time in America, Homosexuality was considered to be moral and the Religious Right has snatched the notion away. That time never existed.

25 posted on 04/19/2005 12:47:11 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: wideawake

True enough!! Let's go a little further and state, without equivocation, that at NO TIME in recorded history has this perversion been accepted.

There are numerous good reasons for that beyond the Bible; mental and physical health are two which spring to mind.


26 posted on 04/19/2005 12:47:56 PM PDT by PaRebel (The Constitution is NOT a menu. Accept it-American; Reject it-Un-American!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

P: And of course, they will look for the wild-eyed mouth-foamers to substantiate their rhetoric.

CNS: In your haste to slam conservatives you also have slammed our new Pope...nice job "communicating" there.

Clint,

You don't get it.

I am not saying that anyone who opposes the gay activists is a wild-eyed mouth-foamer.

I am a Christian.
I am a Conservative.
I oppose homosexual activists.

I am just saying that there is a way to argue the matter that builds support for OUR cause, and there is a way to do it that builds support for THEIR cause.

Calm, compassionate, loving argument works in our interest.

Wild-eyed, foaming-mouthed screaming works in their interest.

How can I be more clear on this?


27 posted on 04/19/2005 12:55:18 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Reclaim? Reclaim what? Perhaps they should start by not lying. There is nothing to reclaim. What they want to do is redefine -- sex, faith, truth, biology, logic....you name it!


28 posted on 04/19/2005 1:15:15 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Liberal rabbis endorse Jerusalem Gay parade
29 posted on 04/19/2005 1:16:40 PM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Am I the only one who sees the irony of the fact that it was the "evil" culture of Southern Evangelicals that first invented rock n' roll music? Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis, etc,....they all came from religious backgrounds. And as dysfunctional as they were, they still respected moral values, even if they couldn't always live up to those values. Whereas the rock artists and fans of the late 60's and beyond seem to think that moral values are obsolete.

Most of those old rockers from the 50's, at some point, recorded albums of religious hymns. Maybe all the anti-Bible Belt bigots ought to consider that those old rockers understood the need for a moral compass to keep them from being completely taken over by hedonism, and that the culture that first gave us rock n' roll understands the dangers of its excesses better than anyone else.


30 posted on 04/19/2005 1:21:49 PM PDT by The Fop (just because I'm a McCarthyite, doesn't mean you're not a Commie)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

DING!


31 posted on 04/19/2005 2:15:45 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

GLBT people are absolutley loved by God but they too often mistake the word "love" for the word "permission" (as we do we all).


32 posted on 04/19/2005 2:19:39 PM PDT by Polycarp1
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To: Clint N. Suhks

GLBT people are absolutley loved by God but they too often mistake the word "love" for the word "permission" (as do we all). A Church that warns people of the dangers of sin (in all its forms) is a Church that truly loves.


33 posted on 04/19/2005 2:24:27 PM PDT by Polycarp1
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To: Polycarp1
Does God hate the wicked or has He changed since the OT days? Will the wicked perish? Or will they dwell with God in heaven one day? Why or why not? Is that love?

What does it mean to "hate the sin"? As applied to homosexuals particularly, how do you hate the sin without at least some rejection of the sinner? Does "hate the sin but love the sinner" really mean "love the sin and be indifferent to the fate of the sinner"?

If loving the sinner means keeping your lips zipped about his evil ways then why do we condemn other evil deeds, and how do we preach repentance if we can't mention specific sins? How do we raise children in the way they should go if we cannot comdemn their sinful ways? How do we seek God's righteousness if it is bad to acknowledge wrongs? How do we set any standards at all, moral or otherwise?

Should we love child molesters? Rapists? Any sinner, or just some sinners?

I do not think love and truth are at odds in God's eyes. Only to humans are they often incompatible. God is love. God is truth. And God is holy. These things in their true forms are not at odds with each other. Condoning evil is injustice, and that is not loving to anyone.

34 posted on 04/19/2005 2:48:59 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"Queer Immigrant Rights Project"

This phrase pretty much says it all. Just the fact that there is such an organization shows just how far we've sunk.

35 posted on 04/19/2005 3:05:49 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Gotta ping out the pings. Naturally those who want to violate God's laws don't like those who adhere to and promote God's laws.

Duh.

The funny thing is, those who demand tolerance from us can't tolerate dissent or disagreement. They want everyone else in the world to shut up and kowtow to them and their dysfunctional, sinful, unnatural, and unhealthy desires and practices.

Let DirtyHarryY2K and me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


36 posted on 04/19/2005 3:34:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Well .. they're really going to love the new Pope - he said, "homosexuality is an intrinsic moral evil".

I wonder how the Episcopal chuch is going to deal with that - in their church services they used to swear allegiance to the Holy Roman Church.


37 posted on 04/19/2005 3:51:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Clint N. Suhks
The sodomites wish to subvert the House Of God. Why am I not surprised?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
38 posted on 04/19/2005 3:55:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

CANNOT RECLAIM WHAT YOU NEVER HAD!

Oh and you ARE ungodly, and immoral! Nothing frightens these homos more than the truth. The fear it so bad, they concoct stories (lies) to defend their denial.


39 posted on 04/19/2005 5:18:12 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Jaysun

Like Rush said today, we get to the point that we have too many robberies, these peoples answer to the problem is make robbery legal. Just stop arresting for it.

Makes as much sense!


40 posted on 04/19/2005 5:20:57 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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