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LIVE THREAD: Senate Coverage AND Senate Foreign Relations Committee vote on Bolton nomination
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Posted on 04/19/2005 11:07:48 AM PDT by ken5050
OK..here's what we know..Senate is in recess for the weekly party caucus luncheons. Supposed to resume at 2:15. on C-span 2.. The Foreign Relations committee is supposed to meet at 2:45 to vote on the Bolton nomination. Lugar has refused requests for a delay. Just before the Senate recessed, Reid objected to Frist's UC request for the Froeign Relations committee to meet today. Frist withdrew his request..
TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; backbonetransplant; bolton; quorumcall; un; ussenate; usualsuspects; watchingpaintdry
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To: Pukin Dog
ROTFLMAO, Good lord do you slay me with these frank letters to Chairmen. At least you gave him a kiss first. Hah!
1,521
posted on
04/19/2005 3:30:33 PM PDT
by
samantha
(relax the grownups are in charge (I think).....)
To: Perlstein
Outta curiosity, CAN the pubs call a special meeting or conference tomorrow and demand a vote of Bolton...kinda like turning the tables of the pukeRATS, an up or down vote? You know like a sneaky attack or something like that?
To: Howlin
1,523
posted on
04/19/2005 3:32:08 PM PDT
by
samantha
(relax the grownups are in charge (I think).....)
To: Perlstein
To: ken5050
I'm afraid the day turned sour when Luger tried to get Bolton voted out of committee. He had the usual suspects, Biden, Boxer, etc., but he hadn't counted on the typical spineless Republicans who played right into the Democrats hands. Luger did the best he could in the circumstances that he was put into......more by the Republicans than the Democrats. If I had been him, I would have insisted on the vote.....however, I don't know the consequences of that procedure. I might add neither did Luger!
To: Truth29
After this embarrassment, I am starting to think the Pubbies don't have a cohesiveness problem, but a simple lack of intelligence. How friggin' stupid does a group of grown men have to be to have the likes of Kerry, Sarbanes, and Biden make them look bad? I doubt any of those jerks have an IQ larger than their shoe size.
1,526
posted on
04/19/2005 3:32:45 PM PDT
by
thelastvirgil
(Help stamp out incumbent politicians: Public enemy number one.)
To: Perlstein
It's not roguish to put loyalty to country over loyalty to president.
It is roguish not to inform your party of your stance. Senator Vacillate blindsided everyone, appearing out of nowhere to rally to the Dems' cause. He either knew he would not support Bolton and is therefore a traitor to his party, or his mind was changed by the Dems and he is therefore an indecisive buffoon. Either way, that hardly makes him an American hero.
1,527
posted on
04/19/2005 3:33:43 PM PDT
by
Cyclopean Squid
(History remembers only what was, not what might have been.)
To: Perlstein
Now I AM laughing......"a pattern of behavior".....LOL! How naive
I sat here and watched 8 YEARS worth of corrupt "patterns of behavior",
from illegal fundraising, to selling out our national security,
wholesale to communist China, for campaign cash;
Lincoln Bedroom rentals, treating terror attacks as "law enforcement problems";
Waco, the first trade center bombing, OKC, TWA Flight 800, Vince Foster
(who killed himself, IMHO, in the WH, due to guilt about Waco),
lying under oath, and last minute pardoning of terrorists and Marc Rich.
And, NOW we're supposed to pay attention because John Bolton wasn't "sensitive" in his dealings with others,
and because he disagreed with some NSA document redactions?
Get a hold of yourself.
1,528
posted on
04/19/2005 3:33:48 PM PDT
by
MamaLucci
(Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
To: RoseofTexas
Outta curiosity, CAN the pubs call a special meeting or conference tomorrow and demand a vote of Bolton...kinda like turning the tables of the pukeRATS, an up or down vote? You know like a sneaky attack or something like that?
This post was meant fOR Ken5050 NOT for pearlstein!!!!
To: Howlin
Chaffee is just trying to start a trend. Fact is, Chaffee is the biggest coward in Washington. He knows that if he gets on record for supporting Bolton, he will give ammo to his opponent in the next election.
But he also knows that if he votes against Bolton then Bush will allow primary challenges to Chaffee, where he stands a chance of being defeated by another Republican.
So, all he can hope for is for other Senators to vote with him AGAINST Bolton, so Bush cant blame him directly. Chaffee needs a good beating.
1,530
posted on
04/19/2005 3:34:28 PM PDT
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: hipaatwo
1,531
posted on
04/19/2005 3:34:41 PM PDT
by
hipaatwo
(When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
To: Cyclopean Squid
I can't seem to turn off CSpan--it's like a car wreck. I'm embarrassed to look, but I can't look away. Byrd, then McCain. Somebody send me a kitten!
To: Perlstein
He didn't seem to understand what was going on, poker-wise, during the hearing.So democratic politicians are better poker players...and, to you, that's all that matters. Just keep on that path, Perlstein, till you're left with a handful of senators from New England and California. Because that's all you're going to have left.
One day you'll realize that the majority of voters in this country aren't playing poker, and aren't one bit impressed by the "skills" shown by Biden, Dodd, Kerry, and Company.
To: Pukin Dog
From quidnunc:
Rich Lowry in National Review's 'The corner' seems ti be intimating that Bolton is toast and that it was the Powell/Armitage loyalists still in the State Dept. that burned him.
1,534
posted on
04/19/2005 3:36:17 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
To: Howlin
I do not consider him a lame duck, but, believe me, THEY do think of him that way; all their thinking about now is 2006 and 2008, which, as far as they are concerned, doesn't not involve him. Well they best realize that we like Bush
And weren't fond of them
And after this committee meeting today .. The Senate's Poll Ratings went down even further
We didn't bust out butts to get all those republican senators in office just so they could screw us over
We'll just see who has the last laugh
NOT ONE DANG DIME TILL THEY GROW A SPINE!!!
1,535
posted on
04/19/2005 3:36:18 PM PDT
by
Mo1
("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
To: Perlstein
Disagree..I think Allen was absolutely stuned, shocked, beebed...at what happened....he was literally speechless..
1,536
posted on
04/19/2005 3:36:27 PM PDT
by
ken5050
(The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
To: MamaLucci
You forgot the Oval Office X-rated antics.
To: Perlstein
How can we get the accurate intelligence we need to win the GWOT if analysts feel intimidated for political reasons?Since when do you leftists care about winning the War on Terror anyhow? Wasn't the entire thing dreamed up by George Bush and the neocons in Crawford to provide an excuse for us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq so we could steal the oil and build a pipeline for Halliburton? Oh yeah, and throw all you leftists into the death camps for good measure?
You mean you're actually conceding there might be something to the War on Terror? Or are you just invoking it now because it's politically expedient for your side to do so today?
1,538
posted on
04/19/2005 3:36:50 PM PDT
by
CFC__VRWC
(Ted Kennedy and the New York Times do NOT select our next Pope.)
To: SoVaDPJ
Lifelong Conservative my chubby Italian a$$. ROFLMAO!!!
1,539
posted on
04/19/2005 3:36:56 PM PDT
by
MamaLucci
(Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
To: RoseofTexas
NO..it would require UC..
1,540
posted on
04/19/2005 3:37:27 PM PDT
by
ken5050
(The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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