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To: econ_grad

"I have heard that argument and it is pretty lame."

Interesting, if you heard it before, that you still have not formulated a response to it other than to cite your litany of problems with the Catholic Church, including imagined ones like the worship of demigods.

So let's cut to the chase, again. You wrote:
"I think that the Bible is the final dispensation of the Truth given by God."

I am asking you why you believe that.
The Bible does not say that.
If you think it does, I would like you to cite to the Biblical text in which the Bible, particularly the New Testament (your emphasis) is described, and then is described as the final authority.

You have placed final authority on the Bible.
That's fine, but you do not do so based on the Bible.
The New Testament does not say to do that.
It doesn't even come close.
To say that "all Scripture is God breathed", which is about the closest you will get to a text that supports your assertion of New Testament authority, is to beg the question: what is Scripture, and who defines what Scripture is?

You keep wanting to return to your attacks on the Catholic Church.
I note that I am not, in turn, attacking you.
I am demanding that you explain yourself.
You have placed your entire faith in the Bible.
Since the Bible does not say to do that, you got the notion to do that from somewhere non-Biblical. You got it from another man, and you are following that tradition of his quite uncritically, as regards yourself and your own faith, and rather viciously attacked the faith of others (and in many cases ignorantly -the demigods business is simply ridiculous, and it is not ignorant anymore either, because you have been informed by many here of the actual Catholic belief on saints, so now it is just stubborn error on your part).

It's fine that you follow the traditions of the men who taught you to view the Bible that way. There is a great tradition of that, spanning the centuries.

But it remains that: a tradition.

It's just silly to castigate one folks for HAVING a tradition when you so blatantly and uncritically reference your own.

Here is a question for you: if the New Testament is so utterly central, why do you suppose Jesus didn't write anything? Why do you suppose he left a Church, and not a bible dispensary?



178 posted on 04/21/2005 6:20:29 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13

You are definitely not paying attention to what I am saying. Of course, someone had to teach me that the Bible is God's word. I have taken the words of the Bible upon faith, without any evidence. That is why it is called faith.

My problem with the Catholic Church is because of its practices of elevating mortals to demigods. Hindus do that too, but they are pagans. I have no problem considering the Catholic Church to be a pagan church but the Catholic Church practices and rituals are sometimes in conflict with the Scripture which renders it pagan.


184 posted on 04/21/2005 12:03:52 PM PDT by econ_grad
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