Posted on 04/19/2005 6:11:10 AM PDT by vannrox
If you aks me, it's more like aliens came here to watch prehistoric morons like we are some reality show like "Survivor". Instead, they found some guy named Daryl who emptied his side by side full of OO buckshot into their celestial arsses while they wus lurkin in his back yard watchin Edna n' him bumpin uglies.
Why, there's even further proof that Rush is the son of aliens derived from the Americanized name they selected. "Baugh", though rare in Welsh, is derived from German "Bach" (and the German name Bach was also often changed to "Baugh" in the U.S., hence many folks named Baughman pronounce it Bachman). Anyway, Baugh or Bach means "small" or "little." You put it all together and you have "Little Limb" or "Small Limb."
They (the aliens) obviously chose a place deep in farm country because in their study of 1930s depression-era America, the only sturdy beef-boys were some Midwestern farmboys. And they needed to beef up their boy to pass him off as American.
As anybody ever heard was Rush's stance is on alien immigration?
I'm reading it right now. Very entertaining, very, very, off-target. Col. Corso used his very formidable imagination to dream up the content.
(No, I'm not a debunker, either. Corso has hurt Ufology with his nonsense.)
TOP SECRET / MAJIC 001 EYES ONLY NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TOP SECRET * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * EYES ONLY COPY _ONE_ OF _ONE_. BRIEFING DOCUMENT: OPERATION MAJESTIC 12PREPARED FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER: (EYES ONLY) 18 NOVEMBER, 1952 _WARNING_: This is a TOP SECRET - EYES ONLY document containing compartmentalised information essential to the national security of the United States. EYES ONLY ACCESS to the material herein is strictly limited to those possessing Majestic-12 clearance level. Reproduction in any form or the taking of written or mechanically transcribed notes is strictly forbidden. * * * * * * * * * * * * TOP SECRET * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SUBJECT: OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 PRELIMINARY BRIEFING FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT EISENHOWER DOCUMENT PREPARED 18 NOVEMBER, 1952 BRIEFING OFFICER: ADM. ROSCOE H. HILLENKOETTER (MJ-12) NOTE: This document has been prepared as a preliminary briefing only. It should be regarded as introductory to a full operations briefing intended to follow. OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 is a TOP SECRET Research and Development/ Intelligence operation responsible directly and only to the President of the United States. Operations of the project are carried out under the control of the Majestic-12 (Majic-12) Group which was established by special classified executive order of President Truman on 24 September, 1947, upon recommendation by Dr. Vannevar Bush and Secretary James Forrestal. (See Attachment "A".) Members of the Majestic-12 Group were designated as follows: Adm. Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter Dr. Vannevar Bush Secy. James V. Forrestal* Gen. Nathan P. Twining Gen Hoyt S. Vandenberg Dr. Detlev Bronk Dr. Jerome Hunsaker Mr. Sidney W. Souers Mr. Gordon Gray Dr. Donald Mensal Gen. Robert M. Montague Dr. Lloyd V. Berkner The death of Secretary Forrestal on 22 May, 1949, created a vacancy which remained unfilled until 01 August, 1950, upon which date Gen. Walter B. Smith was designated a permanent replacement. On 24 June, 1947, a civilian pilot flying over the Cascade Mountains in the State of Washington observed nine flying disc-shaped aircraft travelling in formation at a high rate of speed. Although this was not the first known sighting of such objects, it was the first to gain widespread attention in the public media. Hundreds of reports of sightings of similar objects followed. Many of these came from highly credible military and civilian sources. These reports resulted in independent efforts by several different elements of the military to ascertain the nature and purpose of these objects in the interests of national defense. A number of witnesses were interviewed and there were several unsuccessful attempts to utilize aircraft in efforts to pursue reported discs in flight. Public reaction bordered on near hysteria at times. In spite of these efforts, little of substance was learned about the objects until a local rancher reported that one had crashed in a remote region of New Mexico located approximately seventy-five miles northwest of Roswell Army Air Base (now Walker Field). On 07 July, 1947, a secret operation was begun to assure recovery of the wreckage of this object for scientific study. During the course of this operation, aerial reconnaissance discovered that four small human-like beings had apparently ejected from the craft at some point before it exploded. These had fallen to earth about two miles east of the wreck-age site. All four were dead and badly decomposed due to action by predators and exposure to the elements during the approximately one week time period which had elapsed before their discovery. A special scientific team took charge of removing these bodies for study. (See attachment "C".) The wreckage of the craft was also removed to several different locations.(See Attachment "B".) Civilian and military witnesses in the area were debriefed, and news reporters were given the effective cover story that the object had been a misguided weather research balloon. A covert analytical effort organized by Gen. Twining and Dr. Bush acting on the direct orders of the President, resulted in a preliminary concensus (19 September, 1947) that the disc was most likely a short range reconnaissance craft. This conclusion was based for the most part on the craft's size and the apparent lack of any identifiable provisioning. (See Attachment "D".) A similar analysis of the four dead occupants was arranged by Dr. B Ronk. It was the tentative conclusions of this group (30 November, 1947) that although these creatures are human-like in appearance, the biological and evolutionary processes responsible for their development has apparently been quite different from those observed or postulated in homo sapiens. Dr. Bronk's team has suggested the term "Extra-terrestrial Biological Entities", or "EBE's", be adopted as the standard term of reference for these creatures until such time as a more definitive designation can be agreed upon. Since it is virtually certain that these craft do not originate in any country on earth, considerable speculation has centered around what their point of origin might be and how they get here. Mars was and remains a possibility, although some scientists, most notably Dr. Menzel, consider it more likely that we are dealing with beings from another solar system entirely. Numerous examples of what appear to be a form of writing were found in the wreckage. Efforts to decipher these have remained largely unsuccessful. (See Attachment "E".) Equally unsuccessful have been efforts to determine the method of propulsion or the nature or method of transmission of the power source involved. Research along these lines has been complicated by the complete absence of identifiable wings, propellers, jets, or other conventional methods of propulsion and guidance, as well as a total lack of metallic wiring, vacuum tubes, or similar recognizable electronic components. (See Attachment "F".) It is assumed that the propulsion unit was completely destroyed by the explosion which caused the crash. A need for as much additional information as possible about these craft, their performance characteristics and their purpose led to the undertaking known as U. S. Air Force Project SIGN in December, 1947. In order to preserve security, liaison between SIGN and Majestic-12 was limited to two individuals within the Intelligence Division of Air Material Command whose role was to pass along certain types of information through channels. SIGN evolved into Project GRUDGE in December, 1948. The operation is currently being conducted under the code name BLUE BOOK, with liaison maintained through the Air Force officer who is head of the project. On 06 December, 1950, a second object, probably of similar origin, impacted the earth at high speed in the El Indio - Guerrero area of the Texas - Mexican border after following a long trajectory through the atmosphere. By the time a search team arrived, what remained of the object had been almost totally incinerated. Such material as could be recovered was transported to the A. E. C. facility at Sandia, New Mexico, for study. Implications for the National Security are of continuing importance in that the motives and ultimate intentions of these visitors remain completely unknown. In addition, a significant upsurge in the surveillance activity of these craft beginning in May and continuing through the autumn of this year has caused considerable concern that new developments may be imminent. It is for these reasons, as well as the obvious international and technological considerations and the ultimate need to avoid a public panic at all costs, that the Majestic-12 Group remains of the unanimous opinion that imposition of the strictest security precautions should continue without interruption into the new administration. At the same time, contingency plan MJ-1949-04P/78 (Top Secret - Eyes Only) should be held in continued readiness should the need to make a public announcement present itself. (See Attachment "G".) THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON Sep tember 24, 1947MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE Dear Secretary Forrestal: As per our recent conversation on this matter, you are hereby authorized to proceed with all due speed and caution upon your undertaking. Hereafter this matter shall be referred to only as Operation Majestic Twelve. It continues to be my feeling that any future considerations relative to the ultimate disposition of this matter should rest solely with the Office of the President following appropriate discussions with yourself, Dr. Bush and the Director of CentralIntelligence. /s/Harry Truman July 14, 1954 _TOP SECRET RESTRICTED_SECURITY INFORMATION_MEMORANDUM FOR GENERAL TWINING SUBJECT: NSC/MJ-12 Special Studies Project The President has decided that the MJ-12 SSP briefing should take place _during_ the already scheduled White House meeting of July 16, rather than following it as previously intended. More precise arrangements will be explained to you upon arrival. Please alter your plans accordingly. Your concurrence in the above change of arrangements is assumed. ROBERT CUTLER Special Assistant to the President Declassified COPY Authority: NND 857013 from by 912/TH Date 1/12/87THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES Record Group No. RG341 Records of the Headquarters, United States Air Force THE PRESIDENT'S APPOINTMENTS FRIDAY, JULY 16, 1954. 8.50 - The President will receive the Governor of the Farm Credit Administration and the Members of the Federal Farm Credit Board 9.00 - Cabinet Meeting 11.00 - The President will sign S. 3291, An Act "Authorizing the President to present a gold medal to Irving Berlin" 12.15 - The President will receive a group of Congressmen, who wish to pay their res- pects and pledge their continuing support of the President's program. 1.00 - (LUNCH) NATIONAL ARCHIVES Washington, DC 20408 Date: July 22, 1987 Reply to attn of: Military Reference Branch Subject: Reference Report on MJ-12 To: The Record The National Archives has received many requests for documentation and information about "Project MJ-12". Many of the inquiries concern a memorandum from Robert Cutler to General Nathan Twining, dated July 14, 1954. This particular document poses problems for the following reasons: 1. The document was located in Record Group 341, entry 267. The series is filed by a Top Secret register number. This document does not bear such a number. 2. The document is in the folder T4-1846. There are no other documents in the folder regarding "NSC/MJ-12". 3. The Military Reference Branch (Edward Reese) has conducted a search in the records of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Headquarters US Air Force, and in other related files. No further information has been found on this subject. 4. Inquiries to the US Air Force, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the National Security Council failed to produce further information. 5. The Acting Director of the Freedom of Information Office of the National Security Council informed us that "Top Secret Restricted Information" is a marking which did not come into use at the National Security Council until the Nixon Administration. The Eisenhower Presidential Library also confirms that this particular marking was not used during the Eisenhower Administration. 6. The document in question does not bear an official government letterhead or watermark. The NARA conservation specialist (Mary Ritzenthaler) examined the paper and determined it was a ribbon copy prepared on "dictation onionskin". The Eisenhower Library has examined its collection of the Cutler papers. All documents created by Mr. Cutler while he served on the NSC staff have an eagle watermark in the onionskin carbon paper. Most documents sent out by the NSC were prepared on White House letterhead paper. For the brief period when Mr. Cutler left the NSC, his carbon copies were prepared on "prestige onionskin". 7. The Judicial, Fiscal, and Social Branch searched the Official Meeting Minute Files of the National Security Council and found no record of a NSC meeting on July 16, 1954. A search of all NSC Meeting Minutes fro July 1954 found no mention of MJ- 12 nor Majestic. 8. The Judicial, Fiscal and Social Branch (Mary Ronan) searched the indices [sic] of the NSC records and found no listing for: MJ-12, Majestic, unidentified flying objects, UFO, flying saucers, or flying discs. 9. The Judicial, Fiscal, and Social Branch (Mary Ronan) found a memo in a folder titled "Special Meeting July 16, 1954" which indicated that NSC members would be called to a civil defense exercise on July 16, 1954. 10. The Eisenhower Library states, in a letter to NNMR, dated July 16, 1987: "President Eisenhower's Appointment Books contain no entry for a special meeting on July 16, 1954 which might have included a briefing on MJ-12. Even when the President had `off the record' meetings, the Appointment Books contain entries indicating the time of the meeting and the participants.... The Declassification Office of the National Security Council has informed us that it has no record of any declassification action having been taken on this memorandum or any other documents on this alleged project.... Robert Cutler, at the direction of President Eisenhower, was visiting overseas military installations on the day he supposedly issued this memorandum -- July 14, 1954. The Administration Series in Eisenhower's Papers as President contains Cutler's memorandum and report to the President upon his return from the trip. The memorandum is dated July 20, 1954 and refers to Cutler's visits to installations in Europe and North Africa between July 3 and 15. Also, within the NSC Staff Papers is a memorandum dated July 3, 1954, from Cutler to his two subordinates, James S. Lay and J. Patrick Coyne, explaining how they should handle NSC administrative matters during his absence; one would assume that if the memorandum, to Twining were genuine, Lay or Coyne would have signed it." JO ANNE WILLIAMSON Chief, Military Reference Branch Military Archives Division
I'm not going to read all of that right now. Could you summarize what the significance of your posting is as a reply to my posting?
The MSM "won't touch it with a ten-foot pole", but I'll bet Art Bell is all over it.
Utterly ridiculous, IMO. Anyone that may have had access to all these documents would have had to have had a BBR -- Burn Before Reading -- security clearance, and those are extremely hard to come by.
The trouble with all this is that it's so badly imagined. I write science fiction professionally, and I can come up with a much better scenario for alien observation of the Earth than just cruising around at low altitude taking snapshots.
If there are aliens watching us, their probes are small, disguised as birds or bugs, or else are up in orbit. They wouldn't act like artillery spotting planes.
Moreover, if this has been known since 1947, why keep it a secret? Wouldn't the US boast about its access to superior alien technology, especially in the depths of the Cold War? What's the _point_?
I can find records giving the exact location of every US nuclear weapon in 1947. Secrets get old and eventually stop being secret. Can anyone really believe that this would have remained hidden under blabbermouth administrations like Carter and Clinton?
Give it a rest!
..I already have 4 rolls...@ 4 x 200 sq.ft. (66.6 yd x 12') ea...I'm ready.
In German "Bach" means a brook or a stream. "Klein" or "Kleine" is the word for "little".
"Give it a rest!"
I've never understood that attitude when it comes to Ufology here on FR. If you don't like the conversation, that's fine by me, but why demand that vanroxx "give it a rest" or otherwise not post such material? If JimRob didn't like it, he'd have the mods pull it, and that's good enough for me.
I've said it before, and I'll now say it again: The studied consideration of UFO's, whatever they may be in any given case, is a conservative issue. Notice I say "studied" - I mean logical, reasoned thought on the matter, not the true tinfoil "baby-eating-alien-lizards" stuff.
OH! NO!..We've been found out! quick, "Spin-Up" the disgraificator...First, It was the World Weeky News/Daily Star Supermarket Rags..his "2003 problems"..Now this! :^)
I meant Vannrox. Not Vanroxx.
only if the gestation period of an alien was 10 years. (1941-1951).
If you don't live in a mobile home, chances are slim.
Which of course is precisely the way they have been described to act by UFO witnesses and "abductees".
I spent most of the years 1989-1991 researching the whole UFO thing. My conclusion is that 99% of it is sheer bunkum -- but that the remaining 1% is very interesting indeed. I came away doubtful that ETs exist, but almost certain that the U.S. government is sitting on some kind of Big Secret -- if not the existence of ETs, then something even more esoteric and weird. I'd pay a pretty penny to know what the Big Secret is.
hehhehheh... bflr, should be good reading after work
Coast with Linda Moulton Howe had a roundtable discussion last week for four hours. Mainly they reviwed the older documents, especially from during WW II up to Roswell.
I didn't do it.
It is NOT my fault.
Any similarities between anything I 'jokingly' type and actual parallel dimensions is solely coincidental.
/ end standard denial form 1d1d-2.
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