Libertarian Ben Brandon Dade County, Ga.,
Posted on 04/18/2005 11:29:00 AM PDT by freepatriot32
Libertarian Ben Brandon Dade County, Ga.,
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The minor parties need to start small and work itself way up before it becomes a serious contendor..
Dade county resident speaking here:
Ben is catching flak from a host of "good old boys and girls" who do not want their little bits of "turf" disturbed. Some still want to do things the old way, sort of "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" mentality.
making special interest group exempt from certain taxes is a recept for confusion. Taxes should be as low and a broadbased as possible so they don't mess with the economy. Well run school benifit everyone - who's going to doctor these old folks - who's going to build the bridges these retires drive on, prepare the food they eat. States have seen and decided that education and training can benifit all, not just the person being trained or educationed. Old people should not be exempted.
I agree. I'm sure they were happy to receive the support of older Americans when they were younger, and they should be willing to pay their FAIR share now. We can dispute what constitutes fair, and I'm all for helping out those who are on a fixed income, but it's absolute b.s. to suggest that you get exempted from taxes once you hit 65.
Pretty hypocritical being that it's the parents of those school children who are paying for the eldsters social security.
So an oldster who has 50 grandkids pays nothing? In the name of fairness?
Only a fool, would want to withold education from those very people, the kids, who will soon be paying the old folks social security benefits, directly from their payroll checks, from whatever job the 'uneducated' can qualify for.
72 year old refuses to pay for the education needed to get the up and coming 16 year old, FUTURE Social Security payor, a decent job... then when same jerk is 75 and wants higher prescription benefits, will want to raise taxes on that 19 year old, to pay for it out of his or her paycheck.
If the old farts don't want to pay for the children's education... then the young bucks should start refusing to pay or find legit ways to avoid paying ANY social security nationwide.
The older folks retiring today are the most selfish demographic on the face of the planet. They elect folks who spend massively on social programs, then want somebody else to pay their way. These folks are NOT the WW2 generation, but the leading edge of their children... "me me me" firsters.
Good to know someone has some sense about this matter. I'm sick of everyone over 65 being catered to. Yes, those on "fixed incomes" (as if you can't be rich while living on a fixed income) should get some help, but why should I pay full price for groceries while the 65 year old millionaire down the street gets 20% off on "senior day?" Argh!
When they say all politics is local this is what they mean. Those who involve themselves in politics eventually, or right away for some, learn that there are many opportunities for personal gain in "public service". Because it has to be kept concealed from the voters they become known as a cabal of good ole boys as they must just deal among themselves, partners in crime.
However, not every politician succumbs to temptation. Occasionally a new one comes along to challenge the status quo. It has nothing to do with party, although the ingrained parties are likely to be the ones involved in the cabals, it has to do with trying to do what is right and having the guts to say so and trust the people.
A Republican or Democrat saying the same as this Libertarian may have easily reached the same result. He defeated those from each party but no one was saying what he was. His only advantage was not having to fight for the support of his party.
Bottom line is that morals and guts trumps party, most of the time.
"Only a fool, would want to withold education from those very people, the kids, who will soon be paying the old folks social security benefits...." - eccl1212
You sound like a communist and/or a public school teacher.
Here are two revolutionary thoughts: (1) let parents pay for the education of the children they've produced and (2) let old people pay for the retirement they're enjoying.
I hate their open borders stand.
Period.
Oh de horrors of it!
We should, but don't, emulate the Amish in this regard.
Why not? They aren't his kids. Let everyone pay their own way for their own kids education ... and retirement.
Good luck on that.
You are confusing money for education. Doubling the amount spent on that school district would not improve its performance. Education is a self-motivated, or parents motivated, kind of thing.
You blast the old folks for being selfish, and in many cases you are right, but you are looking at it from one perspective, that of youth. Another equally valid point of view is if the children would take care of their parents once the parents got old, as they used to do, then SS wouldn't even be necessary.
Usually, though, the old folks have provided for the young folks all their lives and when they no longer can, the young folks are demanding it from government. Take care of those old folks, I don't want to. And by the way, don't charge me for it, they have already paid for it themselves. Besides, I need another car and a new sound system but I can't pay for those and health insurance too, so either the government or my company should provide it for me.
Which is the selfish view? Both are of course, it is just a matter of perespective.
You don't see that phrase everyday.
Why doesn't he push for Charter schools? I'm not particularly thrilled with the idea of elderly exemptions....
You may be right. According to the Census, the over 65 crowd is the group with the highest net worth. Why should I pay social security to a crowd that has more money than I do?
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