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Papal hopeful is a former Hitler Youth
timesonline.co.uk ^ | 4-17-05 | Justin Sparks

Posted on 04/18/2005 6:51:26 AM PDT by TXBSAFH

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To: WKUHilltopper
You're exactly right. I had a college professor who was a Hitler Youth and fought in Berlin. He also had most of his fingers chopped off in a soviet POW camp. Was in there for 10 years after the war. It's really no big deal, in my opinion.

Yeah???? YOU try living life with 2 fingers.

41 posted on 04/18/2005 7:25:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (They taunted and gloated with perverse kitty pictures....)
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To: TXBSAFH
Will the left be able to outdo their generated hate for Bush with trumped up hate for Ratzinger?
42 posted on 04/18/2005 7:27:02 AM PDT by hermgem
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To: seamole
Ah, the ultimate smear. I recommend that people who are quick to condemn Ratzinger ought to go see the movie Downfall, now playing in select theatres.

Saw it last night.

I'd recommend it to anyone.

Starkly accurate depiction.

43 posted on 04/18/2005 7:27:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Quality of life' is another name for the slippery slope into barbarism.)
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To: SJackson

Before they made Kurt Waldheim UN Secretary General, where was the media then? Methinks they didn't put 1/10th of the effort into investigating Waldheim's real Nazi past as they have trying to smear Ratzinger.


44 posted on 04/18/2005 7:29:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL! You are probably right!


45 posted on 04/18/2005 7:40:59 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Lazamataz
YOU try living life with 2 fingers.

No problem as long as I can (1) point and (2) express my opinion.

46 posted on 04/18/2005 7:42:06 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "You're so right, AmishDude" -- beyond the sea; "Agreed." -- torchthemummy)
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To: TXBSAFH
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47 posted on 04/18/2005 7:42:58 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: visualops
They force him in the Hilter Youth at 14, at 16 put him in the military, and at 17 he deserted.

It should be pointed out, in case anyone is in doubt, that the penalty for desertion was death. It took courage to do that.

48 posted on 04/18/2005 7:46:53 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Lazamataz

What are you talking about? It was no big deal he was a Hilter Youth...he was 16. So what!


49 posted on 04/18/2005 7:47:30 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: TXBSAFH
I have had the opportunity to study under one former Hitler Youth in college, and work under another. Both outstanding men, both lost their fathers and brothers in combat, and niether of them are NAZI. Both of them know the true cost of atheism, collectivism, and the resulting fascism. They know evil.

One is now a Republican, the other hates politicians. I'd say they should give this guy a break, besides, the liberals Pope would be a National Socialist.

50 posted on 04/18/2005 7:47:57 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: B Knotts

Of course homosexuals are "objectively disordered." Sexual attraction has a biological purpose -- reproduction.

If someone had an irresistible urge to eat by stuffing food in his ear, everyone would recognize that he had some kind of mental disorder. Sexual attraction toward someone of the same sex is equally crazy.

Until a tiny handful of homosexuals/sympathizers in the American Psychological Association got together 20 or 30 years ago and voted homosexuality off the list of disorders, everyone recognized the obvious. Now, they engage in all kinds of doublespeak to avoid recognizing the obvious.


51 posted on 04/18/2005 7:48:01 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: SJackson

You know, the pope really ought to have extraordinary character. What Ratzinger did in his youth was imminently defensible. Indeed, given the circumstances he was quite brave. Nothing good could have come from his getting himself killed. The pope, however, ought to be a person of extraordinary character. Granted that no one of such extraordinary character would have survived in Nazi Germany in the 40s, but I think this is truly enough to kill Ratzinger's candidacy. Which is too bad.


52 posted on 04/18/2005 7:48:08 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "You're so right, AmishDude" -- beyond the sea; "Agreed." -- torchthemummy)
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To: WKUHilltopper

The Pope is a baby-strangling, Jew-gassing, Hitler-praising Nazi.


53 posted on 04/18/2005 7:49:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (They taunted and gloated with perverse kitty pictures....)
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To: Campion
It should be pointed out, in case anyone is in doubt, that the penalty for desertion was death.

Although I should point out that my calculations put his desertion around 1944, maybe later, and I don't know that anyone would have been in a position to enforce it by then. But I'm sure that, even so, it took courage. It wasn't clear that Germany would lose the war, even as late as D-Day, certainly not someone inundated with Nazi propaganda.

54 posted on 04/18/2005 7:51:07 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "You're so right, AmishDude" -- beyond the sea; "Agreed." -- torchthemummy)
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To: AmishDude; All

One of our readings in Church last Sunday was about Stepehn --- the first Christian (after Christ) killed for his faith.

One of the Jews looking on (if not participating) in the stoning was a young fellow named Saul.

People change.


55 posted on 04/18/2005 7:51:19 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Lazamataz
The Pope is a baby-strangling, Jew-gassing, Hitler-praising Nazi.

Worse yet, he's Catholic. Gasp! ;)

56 posted on 04/18/2005 7:52:44 AM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: clintonh8r
The media smear begins against one of the most conservative of the cardinals

How exactly is it a 'smear'? It's the truth isn't it? He was a Hitler youth, apparently returned home, and was drafted into the regular German army. Mind you, it says he deserted towards the end. But it's not like anything the media says will have an effect on the vote anyway.

I don't care one way or the other as I'm not Catholic. But shouldn't historical fact be presented just for knowledge? From the betting though, I've seen his numbers may be cooling a bit as he's too strong at the first. And I came close to betting on him as the choice.

57 posted on 04/18/2005 7:55:08 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Actually, I think Ratzinger has nothing to be ashamed of in his youthful activities. But at the same time, it's not inspiring either.


58 posted on 04/18/2005 7:55:36 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "You're so right, AmishDude" -- beyond the sea; "Agreed." -- torchthemummy)
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To: TXBSAFH
I do not think this should be held against him, but you know some on the left will use it to bash the Holy See.

Of course. "Hitler's Pope." Can you see it?

Anyway, I'd be delighted with him or Cardinal Arinze.

59 posted on 04/18/2005 7:59:11 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Lazamataz

Ok, now I know what you're talking about.


60 posted on 04/18/2005 7:59:15 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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