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Group plans petition drive to create one-chamber Legislature
Mlive.com ^ | 4/16/2005

Posted on 04/18/2005 4:48:14 AM PDT by TitanicMan2003

A bipartisan group plans to launch a petition drive this summer to place a proposed state constitutional amendment before voters to eliminate the state Senate, creating a a one-chamber Legislature.

The group, Unicameral Michigan, wants the measure on the 2006 ballot, the Lansing State Journal reported Saturday.

"There's simply no reason for two chambers," said Bob Dwyer, of Hastings, who is a leader of the effort. "It's a luxury we can't afford and don't need."

Supporters say the change is needed to reduce government size and cost. But arguments against moving to a unicameral system include that such a system removes a layer of checks and balances from government.

The group would need more than 317,000 valid petition signatures for the measure to appear on the ballot. Petitions would have to be turned in by July 2006. Dwyer said the goal is to gather 450,000 signatures.


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My personal opinion is that if it ain't broke, don't fix it (i.e. the percieved problems aren't worth it). Any other thoughts?
1 posted on 04/18/2005 4:48:14 AM PDT by TitanicMan2003
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To: TitanicMan2003

They won't get my signature.


2 posted on 04/18/2005 4:50:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: TitanicMan2003

Nebraska has a unicameral legislature. Anyone from Nebraska who can comment?


3 posted on 04/18/2005 4:51:08 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: Shery

Nebraska's system works well, but it only works if you have a responsible population.


4 posted on 04/18/2005 4:53:04 AM PDT by Meldrim
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To: TitanicMan2003

How about doing away with the courts? The Kansas Supreme Court told the legislature how to finance schools. What happened to "checks and balances"? Or do we have a tr-camaral system?


5 posted on 04/18/2005 4:54:47 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: eccentric
tri-cameral

fingers aren't awake yet

6 posted on 04/18/2005 4:55:43 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: TitanicMan2003
Supporters say the change is needed to reduce government size and cost.

Instead of doing away with checks and balances, how about achieving that goal by reducing spending?

7 posted on 04/18/2005 5:00:42 AM PDT by Phocion (Abolish the 16th Amendment.)
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Instead of doing away with checks and balances, how about achieving that goal by reducing spending?

One way to reduce spending would be to eliminate checks and just keep the balances ;-)

8 posted on 04/18/2005 5:10:38 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: TitanicMan2003
The 'checks and balances' are between the different branches of government; the legislative, the executive and the judicial. Two chambers simply splits the legislative up and has nothing to do with 'checks and balances'. Actually, I support this idea, I think it would make representatives more accountable. Now, representatives can blame state senators and state senators can blame representatives for not doing the right thing. Within States, two chambers are an unnecessary complication and means of obfuscation and means to empower tiny minorities to screw over the majority.

I'd like to see how a unicameral legislature in Michigan will act. I'd also suggest an increase in the number of representatives, so that ordinary people can afford to run and win office. Let's put power back into the hands of the citizenry and out of the professional politicians.

9 posted on 04/18/2005 5:24:19 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: TitanicMan2003
It would be better if the Senate was still organized along county lines. That's impossible, due to the federal Civil Rights Act, but it'd be better.

A bicameral Legislature exists to make the legislature itself more responsible, and not so beholden to the temporary and often unConstitutional desires of the populace.

10 posted on 04/20/2005 9:38:19 AM PDT by Kretek
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To: TitanicMan2003; Dan from Michigan

Zolton Ferency, a wacky leftist prof at MSU, had a unicameral legislature as one of his platform planks each time he ran for governor (mostly as an independent). AFAIK, there's only one state with a unicameral legislature, if any at all.

Leftists don't like checks and balances unless they need something (like a packed Florida Supreme Court) to twist to their interests. Checks and balances are there to protect us from despotism.


11 posted on 04/21/2005 10:17:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: TitanicMan2003

Where have you been? The system IS broke. In almost every Michigan community newspaper almost every single day there are headlines of teacher, police and firemen layoffs, 22 Sec of State offices to close, increased fees (taxes) on every public service, I could go on. Mich has the 3rd highest paid legislators in the US and they only are required to be in session 90 days per year. After terming out after 6 yrs as Rep and 8 yrs Senate, they get full benefits for life once they reach age 55. They are part of Mich's structural deficit.


12 posted on 05/08/2005 4:50:37 AM PDT by JLukas
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Checks & balances will remain with the firing of the state senate. You have the courts and the governor, but, more importantly, the people themselves will serve as the other house. One post mentioned the finger pointing between the house and senate. This is exactly what they did over the 40% pay raise they gave themselves, they blamed each other then walked away unscathed and unaccountable to anyone with a 40% pay increase.


13 posted on 05/08/2005 4:59:51 AM PDT by JLukas
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