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Atheists and Their Fathers
www.probe.org ^ | 2002 | Kerby Anderson

Posted on 04/17/2005 3:15:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 04/17/2005 3:15:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

interesting article


2 posted on 04/17/2005 3:17:21 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I don't believe in atheists. I think they simply reject, vice don't believe. The burden is on them to prove otherwise. Or do they just want me to accept it on faith?
3 posted on 04/17/2005 3:25:10 PM PDT by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"How does one become an atheist?"

Either vaginally or by c-section ;^)

4 posted on 04/17/2005 3:27:43 PM PDT by elfman2 (@ copyright 2005)
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To: SampleMan
"The burden is on them to prove otherwise. "

Then it’s your burden to disprove every religion you don’t believe in.

5 posted on 04/17/2005 3:29:39 PM PDT by elfman2 (@ copyright 2005)
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To: SampleMan
I don't believe in atheists. I think they simply reject, vice don't believe. The burden is on them to prove otherwise.

Actually, it's more difficult to prove a negative, therefore the burden of proof should be on the faithful.

But please don't bother me, I've already chosen a deity.

6 posted on 04/17/2005 3:31:21 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I don't buy it. I had a great relationship with my dad growing up and (despite his infuriating adherence to the Democrats and their ilk) I still do.


7 posted on 04/17/2005 3:31:38 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Any thought on Darwin? Anyone?

He fits this category as well as Voltaire but I understand his father was largely responsible for much of his theories on evolution. Without a doubt Darwin is THE patron saint of atheists. I have not heard about the nature of their relationship but his father's theories clearly influenced his work.
8 posted on 04/17/2005 3:33:58 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I believe most athiests are of the "doubting Thomas" types. If they cannot touch, smell and taste something, it must not exist. I personally think it is a lack of faith that causes most athiests to not believe in God.

Can any of us prove beyond a shadow of doubt that God exists? I know I can't. But there are enough signs around me, tangeable and intangeable, and my faith allows me to believe that he does in fact exist. And for me that's enough.

The easiest way to put an athiest on the defensive is to tell them "if you live your life as if there's no God, you better hope you're correct"
9 posted on 04/17/2005 3:34:24 PM PDT by stm
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To: Wormwood
Ever get a chance to see this?

http://esr.ibiblio.org/index.php?p=135

10 posted on 04/17/2005 3:34:58 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: elfman2

snicker. They're "born that way," just like queers.


11 posted on 04/17/2005 3:35:08 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: elfman2
Then it’s your burden to disprove every religion you don’t believe in.

Not really. Its their burden to prove theirs is actually connected to God. 2 religions Judism and Christianity are. The rest are not.

12 posted on 04/17/2005 3:36:19 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Mark in the Old South
"Without a doubt Darwin is THE patron saint of atheists. "

I couldn’t care less about him. He’s about as relevant to my life as Orville Wright.

13 posted on 04/17/2005 3:36:44 PM PDT by elfman2 (@ copyright 2005)
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To: Zeroisanumber
Ever get a chance to see this?See it? It was my Windows background for months. ;-)

Hail Cthulhu (but at least I ain't no stinkin' athiest, right?)

14 posted on 04/17/2005 3:37:23 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Note George Soro's is on this list!

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15 posted on 04/17/2005 3:37:48 PM PDT by Beth528
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Wonder if this will get some howling from certain individuals on FR.


16 posted on 04/17/2005 3:38:49 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: elfman2
I didn't ask you if you cared about him, I don't care about him, but he pokes a hole in this balloon. I suspect the article is largely true but perhaps it paints with too broad a brush.
17 posted on 04/17/2005 3:42:01 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"snicker. They're "born that way," just like queers."

Fortunately most Christian aren’t so unhappy with themselves that they have to slander others to get through the day.

18 posted on 04/17/2005 3:43:31 PM PDT by elfman2 (@ copyright 2005)
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To: Tench_Coxe

You can count on it.


19 posted on 04/17/2005 3:43:50 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45
"interesting article."

I'll second that. I've just sent it around to about 100 friends on my email list, but it's so profound, extensive (exhaustive!) and so complete that it leaves little room for commentary. The writer has pretty much covered the topic.

20 posted on 04/17/2005 3:45:25 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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