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But she also believes in a woman's reproductive rights. She thinks gays should be able to marry. And she has no problem with using contraception.

"I don't believe religion should ... like ... tell us what to do and stuff," she said. "It should be like a whadyacallit ... a smorgasbord ... where you get to pick and choose the things you wanna do and the things you don't. Like killing your babies and stuff like that."

"The church has helped me with some decisions in life," said Ranc, 36, of Voorheesville. "But I don't always agree with everything they say. I think women have the right to become priests, and that priests have the right to get married."

"Never mind that far greater minds than mine have examined those issues and cast them down as official doctrine. I think we should be able to vote on Right and Wrong."

Ranc is among a number of Catholics in the Capital Region who believe the church is out of touch with its flock on a number of moral and social issues.

Ranc is among a growing number of Catholics in the Capital Region and elsewhere who are increasingly out of touch with their religion, preferring some social rubberstamp to an inflexible, absolutist doctrine that represents an anchor amid the storm.

A Times Union/NewsChannel 13 poll conducted Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday by the Siena Research Institute found about 88 percent of local Catholics support the use of contraceptives by married couples, 34 percent support gay marriage, and 79 percent say abortion should be allowed in at least some situations.

Note how homo marriage is slipped in between the majority positions, even though it has about 1/3 the support.

9 posted on 04/17/2005 2:03:22 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack
Good response. This quote got me:

"Ranc is among a number of Catholics in the Capital Region who believe the church is out of touch with its flock on a number of moral and social issues."

The Church is the flock. The flock needs to be in touch with Jesus Christ. Otherwise, they are susceptible to every wind of doctrine.

Ephesians 4:13-15 (King James Version)
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13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 but speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
27 posted on 04/17/2005 2:15:06 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (God is offering you eternal life right now. Freep mail me if you want to know how to receive it.)
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To: IronJack

Good post.


32 posted on 04/17/2005 2:19:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: IronJack
"I don't believe religion should ... like ... tell us what to do and stuff," she said. "It should be like a whadyacallit ... a smorgasbord ... where you get to pick and choose the things you wanna do and the things you don't. Like killing your babies and stuff like that."

That's called Protestantism, and there are plenty of Protestant churches to accommodate your beliefs or non-beliefs. - Tom

42 posted on 04/17/2005 2:27:02 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: All; LadyPilgrim; NYer; Salvation

"But she also believes in a woman's reproductive rights. She thinks gays should be able to marry. And she has no problem with using contraception."What is this!!!!G-D is G-D!!!persons do not know what is Sodoma Gomora Pompei itp...G-D help this persons Thank you


58 posted on 04/17/2005 3:09:02 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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