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To: AnAmericanMother
But you can't take it too seriously.

Like Our Lady of Fatima? You can't take that silly prophecy stuff too seriously.

Nostradamus was an advisor to kings and a physician who saved many lives with his herbal remedies during the Plague. It's one thing to question his prophecies but quite another to bash an historical Catholic who did much good in the world.

96 posted on 04/17/2005 6:00:19 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
When the Church declares the "prophecies" of Nostradamus authentic and inspired (and there's about as much chance of that as there is of my being made Pope next week), THEN we can compare him to the apparition of Our Lady at Fatima. NOT before.

Like many doctors of his era, he was essentially a confidence man, working on part common sense, part astrology, part goofy alchemistic theories, and part what he thought was magic. (Did you know that he wrote his "prophecies" while breathing in intoxicating herbs and sitting on a tripod like the Pythian Oracle?)

There isn't an herbal remedy that will have the least effect on the plague. In the days before antibiotics, Yersinia pestis either killed you or it didn't. Nostradamus was ahead of his time as far as sanitation and fresh air as a cure for the plague, and the citizens of Aix were appropriately grateful, but he was not the only person who was thinking along these lines. So was honest old Nick Culpeper. Kipling of course knew all about it:

EXCELLENT herbs had our fathers of old—
Excellent herbs to ease their pain—
Alexanders and Marigold,
Eyebright, Orris, and Elecampane.
Basil, Rocket, Valerian, Rue,
(Almost singing themselves they run)
Vervain, Dittany, Call-me-to-you—
Cowslip, Melilot, Rose of the Sun.
Anything green that grew out of the mould
Was an excellent herb to our fathers of old.

Wonderful tales had our fathers of old
Wonderful tales of the herbs and the stars—
The Sun was Lord of the Marigold,
Basil and Rocket belonged to Mars.
Pat as a sum in division it goes—
(Every herb had a planet bespoke)—
Who but Venus should govern the Rose?
Who but Jupiter own the Oak?
Simply and gravely the facts are told
In the wonderful books of our fathers of old.

Wonderful little, when all is said,
Wonderful little our fathers knew.
Half their remedies cured you dead—
Most of their teaching was quite untrue—
“Look at the stars when a patient is ill,
(Dirt has nothing to do with disease,)
Bleed and blister as much as you will,
Blister and bleed him as oft as you please.”
Whence enormous and manifold
Errors were made by our fathers of old.

Yet when the sickness was sore in the land,
And neither planets nor herbs assuaged,
They took their lives in their lancet-hand
And, oh, what a wonderful war they waged!
Yes, when the crosses were chalked on the door—
(Yes, when the terrible dead-cart rolled,)
Excellent courage our fathers bore—
Excellent heart had our fathers of old.
None too learned, but nobly bold
Into the fight went our fathers of old.

If it be certain, as Galen says—
And sage Hippocrates holds as much—
“That those afflicted by doubts and dismays
Are mightily helped by a dead man’s touch,”
Then, be good to us, stars above!
Then, be good to us, herbs below!
We are afflicted by what we can prove,
We are distracted by what we know—
So—ah, so!
Down from your heaven or up from your mould,
Send us the hearts of our fathers of old!

99 posted on 04/17/2005 6:20:00 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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