Posted on 04/16/2005 1:28:57 PM PDT by ambrose
Absolutely and I'm sorry to see so many miss exactly that point. The Schiavo case was about substituting judgment for an incapacitated person. I continue to be stunned at how willing some are to give the protection of that right away. I don't know if Terri Schiavo would have wanted to live but since nobody could testify that she had said so (and what would one expect from a person her age), a few contemporaneous remarks and an expert witness became the clear and convincing evidence that she did not.
I agree with you, and think you ask some good questions.
But officially, the party has 'defined it' very clearly ever since Reagan. The Republican Party Platform is solidly pro-life.
The problem is that too may of our elected leaders have only paid lip service, and have neither led nor acted when the rubber really met the road.
Your curiosity is grotesque. She did starve herself for two weeks, then climbed into a drainage ditch, slit her wrists, and laid down in the water face down. HAPPY NOW?
I believe that most people would prefer to be medicated with an overdose of morphine rather then have, or start forced feeding if they knew beforehand that they were going to have to linger forever in a PVS...but under the law that would be proactive method...or suicide. Not the same as refusing medical treatment.
The Schindlers stated they would not stop the forced feeding of Terri even if they knew she would not have wished to have that inflicted upon her.. Do you agree with that? Do you think a free people should be forced to accept medical treatment under the auspices of government mandate?
By the way, that was one of the most hard-hearted comments I've ever seen on FR.
I'm sure your Turkey friends will be proud of you.
Regarding your post #322...you have hit on something very important here...when you said that eventually interest in this case will wane, and that years from now Greer will still be sitting on the bench...I think you are correct...there is still lots of interest in the Shiavo case on FR, but I think, in the general public, very few people are interested...I am not really sure how many people were actually interested in the case when it was going on...There are still many on FR, who are seething, and who are seeing cases of folks being murdered everywhere...but I am just not sure, that outside of FR, that many people are concerned at all over the Shiavo case...most people feel its over, and lets move on...that just how people are, in general...
One other thing...you know, Pres. Bush, and Gov. Bush, and Tom DeLay, and Jesse Jackson, and Randall Terry, all have the means to have great access to all sorts of doctors, and lawyers...and surely they would have the best lawyers in the world...and yet, we have lots of what I would call 'pseudo-lawyers', ,and 'pseudo-doctors', on FR, telling the rest of us 'dummies', how the law works, or they interpet the Constitution, or they give out their 'expert' medical investigation and knowledge, and think that we are all going to buy into what they say, without doing our own investigation......
If Pres. Bush, and Gov. Bush, with their access to the best legal minds, did not rush in and save Terri, physically, then I hardly think that the 'pseudo'lawyers' on FR, have any wiggle room to make their case, that they, and only they, know how it could have been done...
All that aside, I still wish that Terri could have gone home with her parents, and gotten cared for by them and by her siblings...
But I am sick of the so called 'experts' on FR telling the rest of us, that they had the answer...
Oh, so somehow you knew all of Michael's motives, how special of you. Thanks for the unintentional humor.
Exactly. And NO GREAT LAWYER, of national fame, from anywhere in America rushed down to Florida, pro-bono, to save Terri from the law of Florida. It WOULD have been great publicity, but I truly believe the law, the case, the rulings, etc... put EVERYTHING on a certain path. And the outcome was inevitable. She was going to die, anyway. There was no wiggle room to save her, and the Schindlers kept losing time after time in the courts. No magic wand to save Terri. The huge legal minds of America read about the case, most certainly, but there wasn't anything they could do to stop it.
CTR
No one ever mentioned that to me ;^)
Since 50% of marriages end in divorce, I suppose that 'spouses' may not always be the 'go-to-guy' in cases such as this. As a gambler, I don't think bad luck ought to carry a death sentence. The system played out and the results stink. Not the first time, and won't be the last.
There are many liberties yet to be denied by lawyers and judges who now hold all the aces. Problem is: when they're wrong (and I feel they were in this case) how do you kick their arses?
Liberals will have a field-day with the all-powerful, legislating from the bench, activist judges that will make their way to the highest courts. The greatest threat to our republic has reared it's ugly head again and for this, I thank Terri and her family for their sacrifice.
She was my Great-Aunt and died decades before I was born.
You match your screenname, speaking ill of the dead, calling her crazy.
No need to post to me, again. In my mind, your posts no longer exist. I will not tolerate such ignorance from the likes of you.
I don't personally know any. So what? Terri didn't want or not want anything, having had no higher brain function.
Of course she wasn't abused - because if she had been then the DCF would have done something about it.
But they didn't, did they? Ergo there must not have been anything to do anything about.
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