[driftless]

The problem witht liberals is not that they can't get their message out, it's that they're getting their message out and hiding the truth. The success of The Pie Party depends on keeping the general public in a profound state of ignorance. This they accomplish with the more than willing help of their friends in Big Media, government schools, and the entertainment industry. That's the irony of the whole thing; they think they're not getting their message out. But it's really the conservatives who have problems getting their message out. It's getting better for us, but we still have to demolish the liberal wall of ignorance to let the public see the truth.

[mcenedo]

Our ideas are right. People agree with our ideas. People just haven't heard them. We just haven't communicated those ideas well enough. So the essence of the "vast left-wing conspiracy" is really communications. It's creating a message machine to inject their ideas into the public discussion 24/7.

Bullspit! - The mesage that these well funded liars put out would be defined as hate speech coming from the Pubbies.

They would not dare voice their own ideas, they just denigrate and lie about Republican positions.

What are they gonna do? Come out for gay marriage? Higher taxes? Against free trade? Against school vouchers.

Sure, that's the ticket!!

[llama hunter]

isn't the real problem is that people don't accept their message anymore, the problem is their message IS getting out
but it's the wrong message......

all the 527s do is smear the other guy, they have nothing to do with getting the Democratic message out because some of them understand full well that the majority of the people don't accept their message anymore so they have to distract the electorate, except it didn't work last time, even with the power of the Mainstream Media behind this machine

and of course under Kerry who knew what the message was at times.......