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Time to End the Jacko Trial
Fox News ^ | 04/16/2005 | Roger Friedman

Posted on 04/16/2005 10:04:11 AM PDT by Hawk44

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To: MACVSOG68

I agee with everything you said.

And I don't see it getting better. The border issue is going to be exploited by shewhoshallnotbenamed and a lot of politically unsavy people will buy into her move to the center.

We need to have lunch with our town freepers soon to discuss these issues.


41 posted on 04/16/2005 11:44:09 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: candeee
Please quit repeating the lie that 40 judges reviewed the case. At most 3 judges reviewed the case and even they left all fact finding to Greer. The other of the alleged 40 judges all merely refused to review the case.

With all due respect, you are incorrect. Should you wish to become better informed, please ping me on one of the Schiavo threads, and I will be happy to give you a reading of just the 2d CA alone. That was not the purpose of this thread.

42 posted on 04/16/2005 11:46:02 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Peach

"You're cracking me up and I don't even know you."

And, apparently you're calling me a liar, as well, and you don't even know me.

Your apparent difficulty with me seems to be as a result of being referred to as a shill, and to the observation that you're using two different strategies to promote your beliefs about two court cases, while reprimanding others about what you are observed doing.

If that violates the rules about argumentation, then mea culpa.

But, it is an interesting observation, isn't it?


43 posted on 04/16/2005 11:46:34 AM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: ColoCdn

If it made sense, it would be interesting.

And since you've mischaracterized my support to MS, then yes, I think it's entirely valid to call you a liar.


44 posted on 04/16/2005 11:49:34 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: Hawk44
The parade of children that have marched through this deviant's "Neverland" is more than enough for me. All the other witnesses are just bullshoes.

Jackson is a pedophile. His own sister said as much during the previous trial, when Jackson bought off his "rubbah" of the moment with $20 million.
45 posted on 04/16/2005 11:51:44 AM PDT by Beckwith (I knew Churchill, and Ward Churchill is no Churchill . . . he ain't no Indian either . . .)
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To: Peach

Doesn't that violate Jim's rule about personal attacks (when you know nothing about the person, as you have admitted?).

Or do the rules apply only in one direction?

As for your confusion, maybe if you read it really slowly, without the prejudice of utilizing two positions.

Being a FReeper means having broad shoulders, because sometimes we're all brought up short on something that we don't even realize we're doing.

Have a nice weekend.


46 posted on 04/16/2005 11:52:29 AM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Peach

You have Freepmail.


47 posted on 04/16/2005 11:54:14 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Logical me

"Lots of problems here. Witnesses have not been the best in the world. All seem to have somewhat shady past."

It's a sad state of affairs when a witness has to pass a background check with essentially a spotless record to be considered credible. Even media commentators say things like, "She is not a credible witness but the evidence seems to back her crazy story." What?!?! Isn't that essentially the definition of credibility?

Everybody's going on about how nuts this mother is but sit her down next to Jackson and she is the epitome of sane, compared to him.


48 posted on 04/16/2005 11:54:40 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: MACVSOG68

You too!


49 posted on 04/16/2005 11:55:29 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: ColoCdn

Rules like dragging conversations over to an unrelated thread? Maybe if you abided by the rules, I would too.

As far as personal attacks, when someone mischaracterizes what I've said, I'll call them a liar. And if Jim doesn't like it, he can ban me.

And if you think I can't point out where freepers are relying on unsourced material on one matter and point out that pedophiles prey on dysfunctional families without being a hypocrite, you're sadly mistaken.


50 posted on 04/16/2005 11:57:22 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: Peach
Pedophiles don't prey on solidly nuclear families. They deliberately go after dysfunctional families and families with little or not parental supervision.

Then when the sexual abuse is discovered and reported and the matter goes to trial, the pedophile's attorneys claim the complainants aren't reliable.

It's worked for a number of years.

Bingo!

51 posted on 04/16/2005 11:57:42 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: Hawk44
Unless there is an "OJ Jury" syndrome here, Michael Jackson will be convicted of felony weirdness. The individual pieces of the case against him are less important than the whole.

And as a jury of his peers, how do normal people support themselves for months at a time on juror pay? I know I would be filing for bankruptcy and losing my house if I was sitting in a court room that long. Too bad this justice is based on how much justice the defendant can afford, instead of the people on the jury.

52 posted on 04/16/2005 11:58:11 AM PDT by Bernard (Memory is the second thing to go. I forget what goes first.)
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To: Hawk44
If she was the one on trial, I'd say she's got a problem. Yet it's wakko on trail, and if the witness and other testimony results in a conviction, may he rot.
53 posted on 04/16/2005 12:00:08 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Logical me
Witnesses have not been the best in the world. All seem to have somewhat shady past. The mother seems to be a stone nut case.

There are thousands of pedophiles monitoring this trial to learn how to target their future victims so they won't get convicted.

54 posted on 04/16/2005 12:02:08 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: ColoCdn
Please note that two of the above were adjudicated guilty, two were not.

Still, I can feel quite comfortable in assessing guilt to both OJ and Blake, and feel that the very visible MJ demonstrates a clear pattern of pedophilia even if the witnesses are whacked out, while at the same time accepting the rule of law in the Schiavo case. Somehow, I don't feel at all hypocritical.

I don't have to like Michael S, to accept the judgment. Most of the arguments there were about the quality of judicial process rather than quality judgements on Michael himself.

The difference for me is that I stop at the jury decision on OJ, rather than start a campaign to impeach everyone in sight and issue threats to anyone supporting OJ. Nor did I request Congress to create some law to stop the travesty.

55 posted on 04/16/2005 12:07:21 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: FreedomSurge
Cross examinations should be outlawed in those cases whereby we all know the perp is guilty.

Great idea. While we're at it, let's do away with the trial altogether. It will save a lot of time and money to simply throw people in jail without a trial. But, hey, we all know they're guilty, so it's OK.

56 posted on 04/16/2005 12:07:23 PM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: MACVSOG68

So when a 40 something year old man insists sleeping with little boys is a beautiful thing and not sexual at all.....you believe him?


57 posted on 04/16/2005 12:08:20 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: Peach

The hi jackers are everywhere these days.


58 posted on 04/16/2005 12:10:11 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: OldFriend

Aren't they though? Just when you think it's safe....


LOL


59 posted on 04/16/2005 12:11:46 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: ColoCdn

Ouch!


60 posted on 04/16/2005 12:12:25 PM PDT by Praxeus
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