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To: bourbon
Well said and thorough but I must confess I disagree with more of what you wrote than I agree with.

I like all the folks you mentioned but they are qualifiers....but most welcome nonetheless.

My experience in the third world leads me to distrust that culture coming here en masse.

Nor do I think we should allow everyone in here legal or otherwise on the scale we now do.

The voting records of most immigrants since the 1965 act are not in our favor by a long shot. Continuing that trend to me seems foolish.

Now...I wish those immigrants were more whitebread simply so it would take the race argument out of the equation and we could deal with the issues rationally..

I don't think there is any way to avoid Bilbo comparisons if we attack immigration and in particular the illegal variety given where most of them today come from. My enemies are going to use that. It's their big arrow and we have become hypersensitive to such accusations, That is a critical juncture where you and I diverge btw.

Our population has increased by 1/3rd in just 30 years and 75% of that is due to immigration legal or otherwise. Approximately 1/4 of those are "caucazoids" mostly non-European.

It wouldn't matter where they come from. It's still too much in my view. At this rate will will pass one half billion by 2005 and over half our population will be from post-1970 stock.

Genetics have nothing to do with that though admittedly it would be more apparent were they all Somalis.

I also worry about assimilation. I simply do not see assimilation as a goal anymore for recent immigrants. I took my family to Edwin Warner park today and it was swarmed almost entirely by immigrants.

Kurds...who actually fit my "refugee" design and should be allowed here but they are not assimilating much. Maybe in 50 years. They are mostly muslim which I confess troubles me.

Beacoup Mexicans....who knows how many. Nuff said. No assimilation there that I can see.

Metro Nashville is probably at least 20% new wave immigrants and amongst the Nigerians, Somalis, Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Hondurans I would bet the majority are illegal which is a whole nother matter.

As is national security on that same issue.

For me the problem is culture and it is undeniably to some degree race based....but not completely obviously.

That is what makes it so sticky.

In my view, the Poles, Jews, Irish, Scandinavians, Germans, Greeks and Italians who came in waves (smaller) from 1840 to 1920s came from cultures which had much more in common with here than do the current waves from Central America, Asia etc.

To me that is obvious and inescapably racial to some degree but more by timing, geography and fate than by design. It was inevitable that Europe would follow Europeans.

Like I said. You gave a great explanation of your beliefs and I respect that. I had never heard of AR until today and I sort of just glanced at it and saw National Front which I would agree raises eyebrows..lol.

But...I probably am more tolerant of "white" ethnocentricity than you are and I don't really consider the morality of racial identity till it reaches Nazism, Klan, or Nation of Islam proportions.

Our age differences probably play into this.


and after finishing this I've decided to send this freep.

It's just better that way. We southerners have to stick together.

charlie
63 posted on 04/16/2005 4:55:38 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!)
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To: wardaddy

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ugh


65 posted on 04/16/2005 4:59:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!)
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