Posted on 04/15/2005 10:14:40 PM PDT by FairOpinion
TAX PING
"For most of American history, taxes were levied primarily on consumption, rather than income, and for good reason. In The Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton argued, "It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess."
All that changed in 1913, however, when the central government started taxing income. At that time, federal taxes were equal to 3% of GDP and the entire tax code was two pages. Now taxes are in excess of 20% of GDP and the tax code is more than 46,000 pages (including 481 separate tax forms). Additionally, taxpayers will spend a cumulative 6.5 billion hours complying with that code, and due to its complexity, more than half of taxpayers will rely on "professional preparation," costing them more than $200 billion."
I agree.
"Government taxation and spending radically departed from constitutional limits under Franklin Delano Roosevelt's reign. FDR launched myriad socialist programs, the effluent of which plagues us today."
Socialism is dead in most countries around the world, but not here, thanks to FDR.
In East Europe and Russia in the post-socialist systems, they have flat tax. I think Russia has 12% flat tax, reduced from 17%.
...that wasn't an "American principle," but a paraphrase of Karl Marx's Communist maxim, "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
Soviet dictator Nikita Khrushchev said of Roosevelt's "New Deal" paradigm shift, "We can't expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."
Echoing that sentiment was perennial Socialist Party presidential candidate Norman Thomas -- "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
And this is all one needs to know, dwell on, think about, until it is embedded in your thought processes which should enable action.
Exactly. The Democrats ARE socialists. A socialist by any other name, is still as bad.
Corporate welfare for Government, Inc.
A company that defines all laws and regulation for itelf, extorting >30% of the income from every citizen and private company within its borders and serving overseas.
A company that regularly goes bankrupt, and solves the problem by stealing more.
A company that ensures criminals every opportunity to take another victim.
Employers of corrupt and murderous unions receiving obscene contracts for shoddy work, in return for votes.
Killers of Terri Schlinder, 1963-2005.
An excellent article.
Indeed it is.
A Taxreform bump for you all.
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John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25), offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright, and provide a IRS free replacement in the form of a retail sales tax:
H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.Refer for additional information:
In East Europe and Russia in the post-socialist systems, they have flat tax. I think Russia has 12% flat tax, reduced from 17%.
And in the process of getting rid of there VAT in favor of a retail sales tax.
http://www.russiajournal.com/news/cnews-article.shtml?nd=47573
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Seems as though the Russians are pushing the envelope in many fronts.
The monetary reforms of NESARA plus the Fair Tax Act HR25, would do the best job.
That way we straighten out the monetary system with one bill, while the tax collection is turned over to the states where it should be, with no large federal tax bureau required, and we repeal all federal income and payroll taxes under HR25 instead of keeping wage taxes in place with a sales tax that NESARA apparently proposes to do.
Taxes are to high on all levels.
Taxes are to high on all levels.
How do you propose to change that when half the electorate is not required to participate in paying federal taxes due to high personal exemption, standard deductions and tax credits for everything under the sun?
Folks (i.e. voters) not participating proportionately in paying the costs of largess are just part of the ever growing constituency for even more government spending and largess.
Until the entire electorate participates in the tax sysetem and perceive the butchers bill proportionately with there benfit from the economy as measured by their consumption you can expect government to continue to grow without limit.
In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
-Voltaire (1764)
A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
-George Bernard Shaw
I was under the impression that NESARA repeals all federal income tax and replaces it with a national sales tax instead. In any case I agree with you. Income tax, bad...consumption tax, good.
Great article.
End the marxist income tax. Cut spending and switch to a national sales tax.
Title 26 US Code Subtitle C Sec. 3101. Rate of tax
- (a) Old-age, survivors, and disability insurance
In addition to other taxes, there is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax equal to the following percentages of the wages (as defined in section 3121(a)) received by him with respect to employment (as defined in section 3121(b)) - ***
- (b) Hospital insurance
In addition to the tax imposed by the preceding subsection, there is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax equal to the following percentages of the wages (as defined in section 3121(a)) received by him with respect to employment (as defined in section 3121(b)) - ***
Title 26 US Code Subtitle C Sec. 3501. Collection and payment of taxes
- (a) General rule
The taxes imposed by this subtitle shall be collected by the Secretary and shall be paid into the Treasury of the United States as internal-revenue collections.
Secondly it leaves tax administration in the hand of the federal government, personally I would rather the feds get out of the business of collecting taxes from the citizen altogether and leave that responsibility under state authorities who constitutionally hold the proper police power & are closer to the citizen's oversight.
I would rather see the Federal government more in a role of protecting individual rights from state predation than being a predator itself.
So what we need to do is .
1.Get NESARA implemented.
2.Reform Social Security into a true private retirement account.
3.Reform Medicare so payroll deductions fund a private trust to pay for Medicare insurance upon retirement.
And the biggy,
4) Get the feds out of the business of collecting taxes from the citizenry and American businesses. Get rid of all federal excises, turn all tax collection over to the states with the exception of those collected at national border crossing.
One problem in the soup my friend. Unlike HR25, the NESARA legislation has no Congressional sponsorship, it is mere pie in the sky speculation with no following at this time.
I suggest you get busy, in Congress and do the pushups necessary to at least get a concrete bill that someone in Congress is willing to put their name to. Without that, it is dead in the water and will stay that way.
True, unless you the other name is communist. What most do not seem to understand is that socialism is just the stepping stone to communism. Reread Krushev's statement. Consider the definition of socialism from a dictionary:
Socialism: n. 2. the stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.
Oddly, I recently purchased a new dictionary in which this definition has been whitewashed, IMO. I would be interested in yours. Here's the "new" definition-
Socialism: n. A political & economic theory of social organization which advocates that the community as a whole should own & control the means of production, distribution & exchange.
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