Skip to comments.Death by Court Order (Terri Schiavo)
Posted on 04/15/2005 9:45:26 PM PDT by FairOpinion
The death certificate for Theresa Marie Schiavo should record that she was killed by court order. The state courts flagrantly violated the democratically enacted laws of Florida laws expressly intended to protect the incapacitated and vulnerable whenever there is doubt about their true condition or their desire to live. When the Congress and the president of the United States took extraordinary steps at the end to have the case reviewed, the federal courts haughtily ignored them.
The courts overreaching began in 1990, the very year Terri Schiavo, then 26, was stricken. The Supreme Court that year decided the Cruzan case, which concerned another womans tragedy. Here, the Court held both that the Fourteenth Amendment guaranteed a right to decline medical treatment, and that medical treatment included basic sustenance. Further, the Court held that a surrogate could exercise this right for people who (a) were in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) and (b) had convincingly expressed a desire not to be sustained if they ever reached that state.
Both tests were dangerously imprecise. PVS combines the total loss of higher cognitive functions with the persistence of rudimentary reflex responses. A person who is minimally conscious and responsive to stimuli is not in a PVS. Because the condition is so difficult to get a precise fix on, some experts peg its misdiagnosis rate as nearing one out of every two cases. The Courts standard for intent, meanwhile, did not require a reliable piece of writing, such as an authenticated will. Hearsay would do the trick. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
"Further, the Court held that a surrogate could exercise this right for people who (a) were in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) and (b) had convincingly expressed a desire not to be sustained if they ever reached that state. "
As you pointed out in your post 43 on another thread,
Greer referred to Michael Schiavo as a surrogate, when in fact, he was a proxy.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
The illegalities in Judge Greer's behavior just keep piling up. This is the "rule of law" that was so sacred to Jeb Bush that Terri Schiavo had to die in order to preserve it.
Terri died not just be court order but by Executive Cowardice.
The real problem is not the courts, but the widespread belief in Absolute Judicial Supremacy.
I heard on FOX today, Hannity and Colms, that 28 complaints had been filed by Terri's aids and nurses between 2000 and 2004 against her husband. The judge threw them out of court as irrelevant.
Excerpt from Blogs for Terri:
April 15, 2005
Another Terri Schiavo-Like Case - This One's in Chicago
Several people have emailed me the following story about Clara Martinez, a Chicago woman who is reportedly being starved to death.
Martinez suffered a debilitating stroke a year ago and her husband signed a "Do Not Resuscitate" order that led to the disconnection of her feeding tube. She is able to consume liquids through her mouth and, so far, has survived for thirty days without food.
Under "normal" circumstances her situation would have gone unnoticed had it not been for the intervention of a pastor of the Hispanic Evangelical Church. Her family also opposes the husband's decision.
I spoke to the article's author, Jorge Mederos. He said the family feels "powerless" and has called the media without response. "No one is paying attention," he said. "The family is planning a protest tomorrow or over the weekend."
Since the family is looking for media attention, perhaps we can help them out. If you don't have much time, please at least make one contact:
Sean Hannity's e-mail: James.Grisham@abc.com
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Make no mistake, there were parallel battles going on:
Terri Schiavos fight for life
The deatheaters right to murder
The judicial branchs fight to remain omnipotent in violation of the Constitution
The judge, acting in addition as jury and executioner, is the enemy of our country. The judicial system uniformly supported him, showing their loyalty to their guild far exceeded their loyalty to God, Honor, Country.
The President swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. To protect our rights to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. He did "what he could".
The world watched as he stood by, hands in his pocket, claiming to be for life and doing nothing.
Doing your best is always good enough for God. Claiming to do your best is not.
When he allowed Terri Schiavos murder, a part of his soul died, too. He had the power. He wasnt the man.
It looks like a black hole in the fourteenth Amendment to me.
When Greer issued the execution order, he stepped outside the boundaries of what a probate judge is allowed to do, but not one other rubber stamptrooper in black robes bothered to address that wrong, so now probate judges can execute persons without the standard of 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. ... And there are Freepers who insist the wrongs were the Congress getting involved, sheesh.
And there are Freepers who insist the wrongs were the Congress getting involved, sheesh.
Yeah . . . it's enough to make you wish that passing a basic intelligence test was a requirement for obtaining FReeper posting privileges, eh ??? ;-))
Why write to Sweet Baby James when you can write to email@example.com with a copy to firstname.lastname@example.org?
And a test for basic human decency wouldn't be bad either.
The medical industry and the penal industry are closer to each other than most people realize, but if you think about it, it seems they met, coincided, at the point of the TS events. Same mechanism, same methods, same thinking. This point is where a new power is growing, and this is where we ought to start thinking about what is going on.
"When Greer issued the execution order, he stepped outside the boundaries of what a probate judge is allowed to do, but not one other rubber stamptrooper in black robes bothered to address that wrong, so now probate judges can execute persons without the standard of 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. "
I noticed that too and is horrified at this.
"And there are Freepers who insist the wrongs were the Congress getting involved, sheesh"
Ann Coulter put it in context:
"Also on the pro-killing side are conservatives still pissed off about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who are desperately hoping to be elected "most consistent constitutionalist" by their local Federalist Society chapters.
You can't grow peanuts on your own land or install a toilet capable of disposing two tissues in one flush because of federal government intervention. But Congress demands a review of the process that goes into a governmental determination to kill an innocent American woman and that goes too far!
It's not a radical extension of current constitutional doctrines even the legitimate ones! for the federal government to assert a constitutional right to life that cannot be denied without due process of law under the Fifth and 14th Amendments. Congress didn't ask for much, just the same due process John Wayne Gacy got.
But people even stupider than lawyers have picked up on the vague rumblings from "most consistent constitutionalist" aspirants and begun to claim that Congress' action is an affront to "limited government."
I saw someone post yesterday that us "Terri fanatics" need to think about how much it costs to keep disabled people alive and that the health care system will go banckrupt if we don't start killing off Terri types.
It made me literally ill.
Sean Hannity's e-mail: James.Grisham@abc.com
"Why write to Sweet Baby James when you can write to email@example.com with a copy to firstname.lastname@example.org?"
Thank you. I will add that to my contact info.
I did e-mail James Grisham, probably among others, about Grandma Mae, and James e-mailed me back and said he was talking with the family, and they had family on Hannity and Colmes a couple of days later.
So what I'm gonna do next time, is e-mail to ALL of them. Can't hurt.
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