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To: Torie
I guess democracy is just not your bag, if it violates your notions of natural law.

I might have missed it, but did you explain how we Californians should democratically express our desires that legislatures and judges not redefine marriage for us?

I have said repeatedly that when the majority of citizens agrees that marriage means something other than it has in tradition, that I will stand aside. Meanwhile, judges and selected legislatures across this land which claim to have the authority to do otherwise are just violating the will of the majority of Americans, as far as I'm concerned.

694 posted on 04/24/2005 6:13:47 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk

Initiatives are law. Legislatures cannot ignore the law. Well they can't, unless if it relates to ignoring the balanced budget law in California. We are not making much progess here risk. It is probably my fault.


695 posted on 04/24/2005 6:17:12 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: risk
I don't think Torie's idea of "democracy" has much to do with the "will of the people."
Rousseau claimed that representative governments are based on the "general will," which could somehow be different from the conscious will of the people themselves. "The general will is always right and tends to the public advantage," he wrote. "But it does not follow that the deliberations of the people are always equally correct...the people is never corrupted, but it is often deceived." - LINK

697 posted on 04/24/2005 6:19:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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