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Talk-Show Host Fired Over Pope Question
FOXNews/AP ^ | April 15, 2005

Posted on 04/15/2005 1:50:50 PM PDT by nuconvert

Talk-Show Host Fired Over Pope Question

April 15, 2005

PITTSBURGH — An evangelical Christian talk show host who questioned the beliefs of the Catholic church and entertained a caller's question about whether the late Pope John Paul II (search) would go to heaven has been fired.

Marty Minto (search), 39, a senior pastor at a New Castle church, was fired Friday after three years as a host on WORD-FM in Pittsburgh. He said he was told that he was alienating listeners.

"As far as I'm concerned, I was doing what I've always done on the radio — look at events around the world from a biblical perspective. I've always been willing to talk about controversial subjects," said Minto, who has had shows in Albany, N.Y., Denver and Phoenix.

Last week, Minto questioned some of the Catholic church's beliefs, such as purgatory (search), and fielded a question from a caller who asked whether the pope would go to heaven. Many evangelical Christians believe that someone must be a "born-again" believer to enter heaven.

Minto, who is also senior pastor of the 100-member Turning Point Community Church (search), said he told the caller that whether someone was born-again was personal and "between an individual and the Creator."

Chuck Gratner, general manager of WORD-FM, didn't dispute Minto's description and said he was let go because of differences in how he conducted his show.

"WORD-FM needs to function in this city in support of the entire church — that means everybody — and not focus on denominational issues," Gratner said.

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1 posted on 04/15/2005 1:50:50 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Minto, who is also senior pastor of the 100-member Turning Point Community Church (search), said he told the caller that whether someone was born-again was personal and "between an individual and the Creator."

If that represents the tone and content of his comment in its entirety, then as a Roman Catholic I have no problem with that.

If a person is too obtuse to be able to tell that John Paul II loved and served Jesus, that's not offensive - it's just a sad comment on them.

2 posted on 04/15/2005 1:53:21 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: nuconvert

"Many evangelical Christians believe that someone must be a "born-again" believer to enter heaven."

We're being mocked. How disgraceful.


3 posted on 04/15/2005 1:53:36 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: nuconvert

It's not a question of "Should he have been" (Unless you're a whining liberal). If the owners of the company he works for decided to fire him, then fine. He's the idiot that brought it on.

That being said, this guy is an a$$hole and had it coming. I would have done it.


4 posted on 04/15/2005 1:56:08 PM PDT by Dean Baker (Two wrongs may not make a right, but three lefts do.)
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To: nuconvert

Baptist church 'fake pope' sign attracting attention, criticism (Pope Bound for Hell).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1383745/posts


5 posted on 04/15/2005 1:57:35 PM PDT by Dean Baker (Two wrongs may not make a right, but three lefts do.)
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To: wideawake
If you're really a Catholic, you know that presuming to judge JPII one way or the other is a violation of the 1st commandment. Obtuseness has nothing to do with it. The only souls of whose disposition we can be sure are those Saints licitly proclaimed by the Church. Everybody else, including JPII, is beyond our ability to judge.
6 posted on 04/15/2005 2:05:04 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: nuconvert; xzins; Commander8; editor-surveyor; Alamo-Girl; RnMomof7; fortheDeclaration; bondserv
?.....how many million 're-incarnations' does one get in purgatory?

/sarcasm....Ohmmmmmmm

7 posted on 04/15/2005 2:05:36 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
If you're really a Catholic, you know that presuming to judge JPII one way or the other is a violation of the 1st commandment.

Incorrect.

If that were the case, then all those people who asked for the intercession of saints before there was a formal canonization process were violating the 1st commandment.

The original purpose of canonization was for the Church to inquire into the already-existing cults of saints and to determine if they were justified.

There is no sin in considering someone who lived a manifestly holy life to be a saint.

8 posted on 04/15/2005 2:10:10 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: maestro
There is no "carnation" in Purgatory, therefore there is no reincarnation.

Purgatory is a place for souls not bodies.

9 posted on 04/15/2005 2:19:31 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake; maestro
There is no "carnation" in Purgatory, therefore there is no reincarnation. Purgatory is a place for souls not bodies.

There is neither a purgartory and nor reincarnation (Heb.9:27)

10 posted on 04/15/2005 2:29:46 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: fortheDeclaration
There is indeed a Purgatory (1 Corinthians 3:13-15)

There is no reincarnation, but there is a resurrection.

11 posted on 04/15/2005 2:32:07 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

I just think it's in incredibly bad taste to be polling the eternal fate of the Pope. There are a couple of Popes that I think certainly deserve a big question mark on the subject but its not my call and it isn't the call of some idiot on the radio. (NO, i'm not catholic. But some of my best friends are....which somehow sounds so much less defensive than 'some of my best friends are black' which is also true in my case)


12 posted on 04/15/2005 2:47:15 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies ....)
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To: fortheDeclaration; editor-surveyor; xzins; bondserv
There is neither a purgartory and nor reincarnation (Heb.9:27)

Wonderful Joy for Evermore!

I thank MY Jesus for He 'is' Good!

Amen,.......Infinite Grace and Mercy.....In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!!!

1st Corinthians 15:1-4

2nd Corinthians 5:6-8

Titus 1:2

Romans 10:17

St. John Chapter 17

St. John 14:1-3 Acts 16:30-31......'SHALT' not 'might'....

13 posted on 04/15/2005 2:50:39 PM PDT by maestro
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To: wideawake
There is indeed a Purgatory (1 Corinthians 3:13-15) There is no reincarnation, but there is a resurrection.

who's to say that "purgatory" (described only in vague terms) isn't just another incarnation? only with the "results" of the previous life (e.g., handicaps, harshness of circumstances, disadvantages, etc.)?? just a thought...

14 posted on 04/15/2005 2:52:34 PM PDT by podkaneofmars
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To: podkaneofmars

who's to say that "purgatory" (described only in vague terms) isn't just another incarnation? only with the "results" of the previous life (e.g., handicaps, harshness of circumstances, disadvantages, etc.)?? just a thought...



The Gospel of John:
Ch 1. vs. 12.

But as many as received Him to the gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.

First Epistle of Hohn
Ch. 2
1. My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate wih the Fathe, Jesus Christ the righteous.

2 And He is the propitation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.


15 posted on 04/15/2005 3:30:17 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: nuconvert

debating fairy tales.

Davinci lives.


16 posted on 04/15/2005 6:02:57 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Handshakes can cause the spread of disease. Be considerate--sniff my butt.)
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To: wideawake; fortheDeclaration; maestro
"There is indeed a Purgatory (1 Corinthians 3:13-15)"

None found here; Paul speaks of a testing of our works, not our souls. It is interesting that you should refer to this chapter, as it demolishes so many romish errors.

1 Corinthians 3:

3:01 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
3:02 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3:03 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
3:04 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
3:05 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
3:06 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
3:07 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
3:08 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
3:09 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 3:014 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;
3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;
3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Context, context, context !!!

17 posted on 04/15/2005 7:08:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: editor-surveyor
Paul speaks of a testing of our works, not our souls.

Which is what Purgatory is. Purgatory is a place for souls who have faith, but whose works are found wanting.

Perhaps you are unclear about what the doctrine of Purgatory actually is.

Context, context, context !!!

I have the text and the context. You have false assumptions about what the Church Christ founded teaches.

18 posted on 04/15/2005 7:35:51 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: podkaneofmars
who's to say that "purgatory" (described only in vague terms) isn't just another incarnation? only with the "results" of the previous life (e.g., handicaps, harshness of circumstances, disadvantages, etc.)?? just a thought...

In order to be reincarnated you need to lose your old body and gain a new one.

According to the doctrine of Purgatory, you do not get a new body - you are just a soul in Purgatory and your body is buried (hopefully) somewhere on earth.

When Christ comes again in glory your old body will rise and your soul will join it.

So no reincarnation is actually involved.

19 posted on 04/15/2005 7:41:44 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: bpjam
I just think it's in incredibly bad taste to be polling the eternal fate of the Pope.

That's true.

20 posted on 04/15/2005 7:43:04 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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