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To: explodingspleen
He positioned himself in an environment of disorderly conduct that was very mob-like

Surely you don't mean to imply that free speech is synomous with "disorderly conduct"?

The police were just doing their jobs

Where have we heard this excuse before?

BTW, they were so competent at doing their jobs that 90% of the charges against protestors are being dropped.

32 posted on 04/14/2005 11:35:58 PM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mulder
Surely you don't mean to imply that free speech is synomous with "disorderly conduct"?
Surely you don't think I'm going to bite your ludicrous strawman? I am not going to debate with you if your response is going to be to attribute false claims to me. I obviously never said that, and you're going to have a hard time convincing me--or any sane person--that burning things is free speech.

Where have we heard this excuse before?
I don't know. You seem pretty prone to fantasy.

BTW, they were so competent at doing their jobs that 90% of the charges against protestors are being dropped.
Your numbers are wrong, and you quite plainly don't understand how law enforcement works. In the given situation the police had two jobs (1) diffuse the riot situation (2) arrest law breakers. How exactly do you propose that the police go about not arresting individuals who are going to have their cases dismissed? Should these guys have gotten trials before they were arrested? Judging the police's competency based on successful convictions is just stupid.

45 posted on 04/14/2005 11:53:32 PM PDT by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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To: Mulder
Surely you don't mean to imply that free speech is synomous with "disorderly conduct"?

No, but disorderly conduct is, at the same time, NOT synonymous with free speech. "Free" speech is still limited. None of us can yell "FIRE" in a movie theater without being arrested. These people came to NYC for the intent purpose of disrupting a political convention. They were not sharing their views or merely opposing a party, they wanted to disrupt a part of our political process.

I guess in your little dreamland it would be okay for these same people to stand outside polling places not allowing their opponents' supporters to vote?

BTW, they were so competent at doing their jobs that 90% of the charges against protestors are being dropped.

Again....what are the political motives behind dropping the charges?? How many of the DA's do you think voted Demoncrat in the last election?

47 posted on 04/14/2005 11:56:20 PM PDT by WBurgVACon (Proud member Tau Kappa Epsilon - along with Ronald Reagan)
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