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To: safisoft
I can assure you they did not get there by the "church". I keep hearing this "we gave you the Bible" tripe from RCs. Sorry dude, ALL of the writers of the Bible were JEWISH.

Well, no, as a matter of fact, all of the writers of the Christian Bible weren't Jewish; St. Luke was a Gentile. And given that (modern) Jews consider a Jew who recognizes Jesus as the Messiah to be not-a-Jew, I suppose you could say that none of of the writers of the NT were Jewish.

And it is pure and simple arrogance to claim that the Catholic "church" canonized the Bible. We predate you by over a thousand years.

As far as we're concerned, Judaism before the resurrection and Catholicism afterwards are one and the same thing. In fact, our Scriptures pretty flatly say so (Romans 11:17-24).

From our POV, you didn't "predate" us. You were us.

570 posted on 04/14/2005 8:26:12 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
Well, no, as a matter of fact, all of the writers of the Christian Bible weren't Jewish; St. Luke was a Gentile.

Please provide your proof for this. The fact is he MIGHT have been Gentile, and it is more likely because he claims EYEWITNESS status that he was not.

As for the First Century believers not being Jewish, you are using an anacronistic argument. Just because modern Judaism considers anyone who believes in "Jesus" to no longer be Jewish, does not mean that is the way it was in the First Century. Read Acts 21 and 22. Paul did not say he USE TO BE a Pharisee, he was a Pharisee. The fact is that believers in Y'shua were considered a nominal sect within Judaism well into the 4th Century. Jerome himself tells of the sect of Judaism called "Nazarenes". It was the theft by the western/Greek "church" that gave us the great apostasy.
643 posted on 04/15/2005 6:44:32 AM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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