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Study: Inmates suffer during lethal injections
Houston Chronicle ^
| April 14, 2005
| ERIC BERGER
Posted on 04/14/2005 12:58:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: EQAndyBuzz
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Study: Inmates suffer during lethal injections"
...to which the victims and their relatives say, "SO?"
To: hoagy62
OR put them to death the way they killed their victims?
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:20:30 AM PDT
by
Jazzman1
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good. Suffer, you murdering b@$t@rds.
I still think were potentially wastin' good stuff though. If their healthy, we ought to drain their blood and cut 'em up for spare parts. Let 'em pay their debt to society with blood, kidneys, hearts, retinas, etc.
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:23:18 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Electric Chair had a certain flair about it.
The smoke, the sizzle and the dimming of the lights throughout the prison.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"The amount typically administered through an IV, 2 to 3 grams, is far more than the amount used to sedate surgical patients and, doctors say, should prove fatal by itself."
I don't see what the big deal is. If they are afraid 2 to three grams isn't enough. Give them 10 or 15 grams. It's not like it's expensive compared to the costs of litigating. Sheesh....
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:40:31 AM PDT
by
monday
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Study: Inmates suffer during lethal injections(Sounds of crickets chirping)
Hey! Did you catch the game on TV last night?
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:45:30 AM PDT
by
Ghengis
(Alexander was a wuss!)
To: little jeremiah
"The real just and compassionate (for everyone) thing to do is as soon as the sentence is issued, take the criminal out to a field, tie him up, and either hang him (or her, as the case may be) or shoot him (or her etc). That's justice, and compassion."
and if it is revealed later on that that person was innocent, then the compassionate thing to do would be to execute the judge, prosecutor, and jury who wrongly convicted him/her in the same manner?
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:47:50 AM PDT
by
monday
To: M. Thatcher; Thinkin' Gal
Clearly, we need to starve them to death. No suffering; just euphoria. Not only that, but they'll look more beautiful than ever. And peaceful.
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:49:19 AM PDT
by
Lijahsbubbe
(Expedients are for the hour, but principles are for the ages.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Make thenm listen to tapes of Hillary speeches until the go into a coma.
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:49:46 AM PDT
by
bigsigh
To: little jeremiah
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posted on
04/14/2005 6:49:54 AM PDT
by
mother22wife21
( "My super power is dancing" -my five year old daughter)
To: hoagy62
Agree 100% Most of these scumbags caused their victims a great deal of pain before they died. I am not concerned with his pain while dying. Most of them would prefer the pain of an injection to the electric chair.
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posted on
04/14/2005 7:00:31 AM PDT
by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: All
Personally, I don't give a darn if the condemne feel pain during execution but I DO give a darn as to the amount of fear and pain they brought on their victims. As far as I'm concerned, lethal injection is too easy.......bring back the electric chair and by the way, the courts in Florida deemed it legal to starve and dehydrate Terri Shindler, so may we consider that as a new way of executing these convicted scum?
93
posted on
04/14/2005 7:00:58 AM PDT
by
Dawgreg
(Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
This must be the chicken or the egg question. How do people know right become decent and well intention in the forst place. Usually because we are taught by parents and pastors right from wrong. How would these people even know what decent and well intentioned was unless someone taught them.
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posted on
04/14/2005 7:11:25 AM PDT
by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: ladyrustic
"Just strap the condemned in a chair and drop a big rock on his head from twenty feet up.
Or a bullet to back of head when not expecting it- even more humane..."
I agree that it is more humane for the executed, but it wouldn't be very humane for the executioner or the witnesses. Lethal injection is chosen as much because it is least likely to provide executioners and witnesses with the ugly twitching, whimpering, blood and gore, of human death, as it is because it is humane for the executed. Bullets or rocks to the head are pretty bloody and messy.
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posted on
04/14/2005 7:14:40 AM PDT
by
monday
To: little jeremiah; Cincinatus' Wife
Thanks for pinging me, LJ.
I just shook my head reading this. On occasion, I have felt that lethal injection was letting the criminal off too easy. Bring back Ol' Sparky, firing squad, hanging, or the ever popular Guillotine (made in France). Let's hear the crybabies squeal then.
To: M. Thatcher
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posted on
04/14/2005 7:28:46 AM PDT
by
unkus
To: Jim Noble; little jeremiah; All
[
Yes, by mimicry of a medical procedure, i.e., one meant to help, it perverts the skills of the executioners. . . During debates on doctors and capital punishment, I've always said that I would pull the switch, or pull the trigger, but I would NEVER use my special skills to cannulate a vein and administer a lethal injection. Execution should be done by a method that any of us could do, because the executioner is acting symbolically on behalf of all of us."]
Thank you for enlarging the area of understanding here, with such clarity and credence. Your analysis is so 'right'; I am wondering how this all escaped a more serious 'moral scrutiny' though I do recall debates initially. . .now it seems; they just make the choice or not. . .
Have always argued against this method of execution. . .feeling the 'dangerous oxymoronic'. . .the inverse happening. . .the 'kind and humane, personal', taking on an abhorrent and sinister quality, but did not know precisely 'why' it felt like a perversion of 'good'. . .save for the 'blurring of boundaries'; meat-cutter's do not perform operations. . .and Doctors do not work as 'meat-cutters' and a sensing a horror for us all, at the 'kind, up-close and personal, that is required for this 'humane' death task. . . and to the moral point. . .the premises here go far beyond the 'execution debate'.
The blurring of boundaries; removing them altogether, (while introducing the more subtle; more dangerous boundaries- ie political correctness. . .) is what Liberalism is all about.
This particular kindness; no doubt began, in the Liberal heart; where perhaps even their best intentions, cannot escape the 'perversion of ideas'' they are rooted in. There are other possibilities, of course. . .
. . . (*The 'Jewish Wisdom' offered by 'little Jerimiah' - post #28 offers a universal clarity as well: Ancient Jewish wisdom warns that if you apply compassion when you should be applying justice, one day you will apply justice when you should be applying compassion, which is one definition of tyranny.". . .)
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posted on
04/14/2005 7:39:41 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Just say - NO U.N.)
To: ContraryMary
Koniaris, who says he does not oppose the death penalty, thinks the study warrants a moratorium on executions until a publicly appointed panel can review whether some inmates remain conscious during lethal injection. "Why don't they just increase the dosage of anesthetic? They certainly can't be concerned about giving them a lethal dose."
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Think there is more to this issue than meets the eye and perhaps. . .the answer is contained above. . .
. . .the study warrants a moratorium on executions. . .
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posted on
04/14/2005 7:44:08 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Just say - NO U.N.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
And why do they bother sterlizing the needle, heaven forbid the condemned person develops a nasty infection.
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posted on
04/14/2005 7:46:12 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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