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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Show me where the absence of guest worker plan will prevent illegals. USA? Indonesia? The Russia-China border?

We have the H2B non-agworker visa that allows 68,000 temp workers per year. Lets estimate the number of illegals whose work would be classified under the H2B at 8 million.

Ag worker visas? again a low quota and 2 million illegals.

These visas quotas are set so low, they are essentially not a guest worker program.As a result we have 10 million illegals. Yet you say the key is to have no work visas

On the other hand, what about the other temp worker visas that are working:

Tech worker Visas- no illegals
Nurse Visas-no illegals
Crew worker Visas-no illegals

There are also many other work visas(such as professors,salesmen,etc) working well without illegals

You would think that if an illegal will come for $5.15/hr, an illegal would come for 40 thou/year?

According to your thoery, we need to get rid of the programs that are working.

Lets face it. You don't want mexicans here whether they are legal or not.

140 posted on 04/15/2005 11:54:58 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Lets face it. You don't want mexicans here whether they are legal or not.

You completely discredit yourself when you make ridiculous statements like this. The vast majority of illegal aliens happen to be coming from Mexico, let's face it. If they were pouring in from some other country we'd be talking about them. Get a clue Ben. Or maybe you do understand but like any good leftist who wants open borders you'd rather throw out the race card continously.

The guest worker programs you mentioned:

Tech worker Visas- no illegals
Nurse Visas-no illegals
Crew worker Visas-no illegals

Have they done anything to slow illegal immigration down? Your non-answer to my previous question speaks volumes.

According to your thoery, we need to get rid of the programs that are working.

Another non-sensical answer. I have no idea what "theory" you're talking about. The only thing I'm calling for is enforcement of current laws. Without that they'll keep coming with or without another guest worker program.

What I contend is this: there will no be enforcement, which means that we'll massively increase legal immigration as was done in 1990 while doing nothing whatsoever to discourage the millions entering illegally. The result is in 10 years the problem will be 1000 times worse.

At that point we'll have the Ben Ficklins of the world telling us we need another amnesty and more guest worker programs to solve it. If the GOP is even in power anymore that of course will take further compromising with democrats to pull this magic off. Thanks but no thanks.

141 posted on 04/15/2005 12:29:31 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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