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1 posted on 04/13/2005 10:45:43 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952
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Shaking my head ping....


2 posted on 04/13/2005 10:47:01 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TV News and the MSM - - - ROTFLMAO)
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The IRS tries to draw attention to those cases to deter others from buying into bogus tax-avoidance techniques pitched in seminars, in books and on the Internet, said Harlan Carter, the special agent in charge of the San Antonio field office of the IRS criminal investigations division.

Meanwhile, the IRS tries to distract attention from the fact that people and organizations have demanded certain answers from the IRS about tax liabilities and questions of Constitutionality, and that the IRS refuses to answer them.

3 posted on 04/13/2005 10:49:09 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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By the time they get him on interest and penalties, he'll wish that he'd just went ahead and paid them.


4 posted on 04/13/2005 10:50:47 AM PDT by HarleyD
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his lawyer will cost more than taxes :)


9 posted on 04/13/2005 10:56:10 AM PDT by soccer_linux_mozilla (I believe in the potential of Open Source software: Linux, Mozilla, Firefox, OpenOffice,etc)
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It was probably the gold fringe around the flag in the courtroom that stopped him from paying taxes.


12 posted on 04/13/2005 10:59:33 AM PDT by BTHOtu
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There have been a few gimmicks that have worked over the years, depending what your definition of “worked” is.

My grandfather and his two brothers never paid state or federal income taxes or property taxes or SS withholdings. But then, they never paid – it’s not like they used to pay and then suddenly got wise and quit. They were born between 1891 and 1900 and never paid from day one.

They’d always file returns but not sign them. They had some s-house lawyer draw up a letter saying that disclosing their income violated their fifth amendment rights and that if whatever-agent thought otherwise, they had limited power of attorney to sign on their behalf.

Had someone signed it on their behalf or had the government pursued them, that’s supposedly when the lawyer was going to jump into the middle of it.

I doubt it would have worked out particularly well, knowing some of the dopes involved.

At any rate, a few things to also keep in mind – they all had modest little homes on a little plot of land out in the sticks. “Regular” houses – nothing nice. They were all self-employed, none had mortgages or bank accounts or checking accounts or credit cards or safety deposit boxes.

Everything(!) they did was on a cash/barter basis – they wouldn’t even accept a check. So from that standpoint they didn’t really have anything worthwhile to seize, no accounts to grab, and it’d probably be hard to determine what their “income” actually was. They weren’t rolling in dough, but weren’t wanting for anything.

Nobody ever messed with them. My grandfather died last in 1982 and once the family cleaned out the house, the BLM grabbed the land. The land had been purchased in the 40’s in a handshake deal so no deed was ever transferred (if there ever was one) and it was never properly filed or recorded so it was the BLM’s position that it was BLM land all along anyway.

18 posted on 04/13/2005 11:18:56 AM PDT by Who dat?
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The Cisco Systems Sales and Services Inc. employee made $770,504 in 1999 and $681,955 in 2000

On a positive note,hey guys,there's one hell of a good paying job open now(after he goes to prison) and it's pretty apparent you don't have to be "that" intelligent to get it.

20 posted on 04/13/2005 11:30:49 AM PDT by quack
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"One argument that has circulated in Texas in recent years is that the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution was not ratified properly, IRS officials said. It explicitly states that Congress may directly tax citizens and came in the late 19th century after the Supreme Court disallowed the federal income tax. "

Well, if you go back and look at the history surrounding the ratification of the 16th Amendment, it sure seems like a lot of funny things went on behind the scenes.


27 posted on 04/13/2005 11:55:58 AM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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Wonder why they aren't as tough on the hundreds of IRS employees who do not file income taxes? Or the black filers who applied for, and received, thousands of dollars from the IRS in bogus "slave reparations"?


28 posted on 04/13/2005 11:55:59 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Oh hell, he read that stupid "There is no income tax" book, didn't he?


33 posted on 04/13/2005 12:48:06 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes.

First, go out and get a million dollars.

Then, when the IRS comes to your house and says 'you didn't pay taxes.' Just say two simple words, "I forgot."


34 posted on 04/13/2005 12:49:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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This reminds me of the "common law citizens" who appear in court from time to time.

They constantly try to annoy judges with "but I don't understant" repetition that only gets them in deeper trouble.


38 posted on 04/13/2005 12:55:15 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Shanklin is among the 300 or so people each year who fail to file tax returns

That's it??? Only 300 people in the US fail to file?

That doesn't sound right. I would have thought it would be many thousands ...

I once went 3 years without filing (after my Mom passed away and I was handling her estate, I just couldn't manage to do 2 tax returns per year.) When I called the IRS, they were very understanding about it, I filed for those 3 years at one time, and that was that ... the penalty was not very severe at all ... maybe a couple of percent on the amount owed.

57 posted on 04/13/2005 1:23:15 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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If at least 50% of the taxpayers boycott the IRS, and refused to file a return much less pay what they owe. This would probably be enough to not only jam the courts, but shut down the federal government.
76 posted on 04/13/2005 1:48:46 PM PDT by Sprite518
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Speeding tickets and non-payment of taxes = guilty until proven innocent.

Anyway, I like having nice roads to drive on; police to take out the bad guys/gals, the military to make the world safe for democracy, etc.

I really wish is the govt. would spend equal to what's taken in - but alas, entitlements and special intrests rule the roost.

That's my soapbox rant... please drive through.

Trajan88

94 posted on 04/13/2005 4:11:34 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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