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[Former N.C. Gov] Hunt touts bill to give in-state tuition to illegal immigrants
Durham, N.C. Herald-Sun ^ | April 12, 2005 | William L. Holmes, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 04/13/2005 5:46:52 AM PDT by Constitution Day

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To: poobear
"Maybe we should enter Mexico and ask them for a discount at there universities and of course free medical care."

In mexico, college is free.

41 posted on 04/13/2005 10:33:26 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Constitution Day; All
IMHO, I think the government (Feds, States, Local) are mums about an impending crisis (economic and budget). I think all the freebies illegals are getting from our tax dollars is an attempt by all levels of government to entice them to stay and consume with hope of the illegals soon becoming full tax paying citizens.

As we know, many 'experts' suggest that the US is changing or going to change from a well-paying manufacturing / industrial based society to a lesser-paying 'service-based' society. So, please think about that along with a negative birthrate in existence, baby-boomers entering retirement, Americans carrying more debt than ever, and large 'service based' corporations now mainly employing people to perform services in medical, retail, residential construction and food (restaurants & agriculture)industries.

With that said, what would be happening to those economic sectors as far as labor wage if all these illegals were not being allowed to skip across our borders and compete for jobs accepting lower wages as not to be turned in to the INS? With manufacturing jobs being exported left and right, and service labor rates NOT rising with the cost of living (inflation), how hard is our economy to crash just a little down the road?

The US being a huge consumer market, it is the only thing keeping the economy just above water. Think about it. With a growing population from illegals, that is what is keeping things afloat. Don't believe me? Better hold on to the notion that inflation is coming hard and fast, much like what was experienced in the late '70's and early '80's if not worse driven by the increase cost of oil as it was then.

You may think my statements to be a bit negative, but the middle class and lower middle class in this country are under financial attack. When inflation starts its aggressive rise, watch what happens to these economic sectors and our economy. Foreign countries will not buy these services from us and we have much less to export as far as finished manufactured goods. Most all manufactured goods can easily be bought much cheaper from China, Mexico, and SE Asia. All they want is our iron and other ores, timber, wheat, corn, soy beans and the US dollar.

42 posted on 04/13/2005 10:35:01 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Constitution Day

Unfrickin believable - not even the sons and daughters of our service men/women get this benefit - but we are going to give it to illegals? Am I crazy or have the RINOs gone nuts?


43 posted on 04/13/2005 10:40:13 AM PDT by sasafras (Innocent blood is on Bush's hands for doing nothing to protect our border)
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To: AppyPappy

>"Illegals pay a lot of money into state coffers without requiring stuff like tax refunds."<


My understanding is that illegal immigrants also take advantage of govt. sevices, including health care, welfare, housing assistance, WIC, food stamps, etc.
In fact, according to some studies; illegal immigrants use almost 3 times more in govt assistance, then they have paid, in tax dollars.

Regards


44 posted on 04/13/2005 10:49:21 AM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: cinives; monkeywrench; TurtleStink
They're quoting a legal alien about illegal immigration ? There's logic for ya!

LOL!

In mexico, college is free.

And probably worth the same

I wish Bush would have taken on this issue instead of SSecurity

But not the way he's currently 'handling' illegal immigration. The Tom Tancredo way would've made me happy.
45 posted on 04/13/2005 11:01:31 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Bush talks about jobs Americans won't do - one we will do is (undocumented) U.S. Border Patrol Agent)
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To: FBD

Not in NC. You have to have a card. I know a family that worked with them and they always complained about a lack of services available to "Undocumented Workers". The kids get some when they get in school but deporting them when they signed up for school would fix that.


46 posted on 04/13/2005 11:03:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: HiJinx

What it's going to take is throw all the bums out.


47 posted on 04/13/2005 11:09:22 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: AppyPappy

thanks for that info

regards


48 posted on 04/13/2005 11:18:22 AM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Imaverygooddriver
Maybe someone can clarify this for me, but what is the definition of illegal again?

An illegal alien is someone whose first act is to ignore the laws of the United States.

An illegal alien is someone who has access to medical care and educational opportunities that your and your children are denied, yet have to pay for.

An illegal alien is a component of the wave of illegals that cost US taxpayers billions of dollars per year.

An illegal alien is part of the massive wave of illegals from south of the border that are enabling the implementation of "El Plan de Aztlan" -- the Reconquest of the United States through demographic upheaval to undo the "brutal gringo invasion".

49 posted on 04/13/2005 11:46:55 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: AppyPappy
College tuition money for people who can't have a savings account

No, AP. Bank of America will let illegals (with a Matricula Consular card) open accounts, and even has a handy expidited "wire funds to Mehico" program in place.

50 posted on 04/13/2005 11:51:41 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Constitution Day

Texas gives everything it can to illegal aliens in-state tuition, welfare, etc. We still have a HUGE drop out rate of high school students. The gimme programs in Texas have not solved any problems They have created more problems.


51 posted on 04/13/2005 12:07:32 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: bert

No, someone from Tenn. doesn`t qualify as illegal unless they came from another country and went to Tenn. illegally in the first place.


52 posted on 04/13/2005 12:54:10 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (ALL YOU BASE ARE BELONG TO US)
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To: HiJinx
"Illegal....illegal....illegal....what is it going to take?"

We'll be up to our butts with illegals before anyone figures out it is a problem up on Capitol Hill.

53 posted on 04/13/2005 1:33:16 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Constitution Day

The first question to be asked of these sponsors is who is paying you?


54 posted on 04/13/2005 2:45:16 PM PDT by junta ("Racism" a word invented so as to allow morons access to the political debate.)
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To: Constitution Day

Jim Hunt also graduated from your school, NCSU! GRINNNN


55 posted on 04/14/2005 5:01:52 AM PDT by AReaganGirl (Jesus came to take away our self righteousness and give us His righteousness!)
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To: Imaverygooddriver

Good dissertation on the illegal immigrant problem. Moreover, they should be detained in tent city jails to save costs (as long as they are adequately fed & medically cared for there shouldn't be anything wrong with that. Sheriff Joe Arapaio in Arizona did it, & the crime rate dropped!). Moreover, all immigrants should be implanted with computer chips or prisoner type wrist bands or collars to identify them, esp. those from Mexico. Fines should be doubled for employers who hire them & assets confiscated. Hey, would you like your son or daughter hooked on Mexican drugs & be a lifetime drug user &/or lawbreaker or maybe a vegetable? A large portion of drugs comes from Mexico & is smuggled in by illegals, who are mostly beholden to the people they paid to help bring them over the border. The Mexican government is mostly corrupt (go to dslextreme.com, for a detailed description of how bad the drug problem from Mexico is & how bad illegal immigration hurts the U. S.). Many Mexican generals, police officers, govt. officials, consular personnel, army officers, etc. are on the take from Mexican drug lords. We ought to change our lawful & legal relation to them as a country & treat them as a terrorist supporting state like Iran if they refuse to clean up their act. Terrorist countries derive a lot of money from drugs for use to buy weapons. I wouldn't be surprised if Red China (the largest exporter of illegal drugs in the world), Iran, N. Korea (which already supplies a huge amount of weapons to terrorists), & other Middle Eastern Muslim countries have a hand in this drug trade. Throw in most of the top crime syndicates in the world & you have the most filthiest bunch of dirt bags ever to have a hand in the same pot of stew.


56 posted on 01/02/2006 3:05:07 AM PST by rorambo7
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