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Deadly Flu Strain Shipped Worldwide
The Washington Post ^ | April 13, 2005 | Rob Stein and Shankar Vedantam

Posted on 04/12/2005 10:17:54 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
If you were one to be conspiratorial putting this information together with the list that Steve Quayle has on his site of the dozens of recently dead scientists that only deal with bacteria and you have yourself a really frightening situation.
21 posted on 04/12/2005 11:19:59 PM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
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To: styky
I just heard on FOX that the reason this stuff was sent to 18 countries was for 'proficiency tests'.

Now, I ask me ... what kind of PT test could I possibly run on a disease that I would need global conformation as well?

Dead skunk in the middle of the road.

22 posted on 04/12/2005 11:30:49 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: knarf

That sounds like a "cover your butt" statement and they seem to be hoping that someone will fall for it.

I don't know anyone that stupid.


23 posted on 04/13/2005 12:02:22 AM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
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To: spyone

Between Drilling to the bottom of the Earth's crust and disturbing Comet orbits, and now this, I tend to agree with you. They could care less about the rest of us billions, only thing that matters is doing research and amazing feats. They're lack of common sense is mind boggling and dangerous.


24 posted on 04/13/2005 12:25:59 AM PDT by Free2BeMe
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To: SubMareener; Mother Abigail; All
Thanks for the link. This story should be interesting to see how it plays out. I think it may be a labeling error. Maybe old labels from 1957 started to fall off while in refrigerator storage, and which were replaced by labels that only identified them as Influenza type A, and not associated with the 1957 pandemic, let alone identify them as the H2N2 subtype. Calling all influenza expert virologists.

Their reference standards don't include Influenza type B samples.

25 posted on 04/13/2005 12:38:56 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Who sent it from where, and why doesn't it say?


26 posted on 04/13/2005 12:56:32 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: neverdem
From: CDC, Atlanta, GA United States
To: Taliban Hospital, Tora Bora, Pakistan
Please find enclosed virus samples to be used only for testing purposes only.
Contents: 1971 Influenza A, 1995 Influenza B, 1957 Pandemic.
27 posted on 04/13/2005 1:17:30 AM PDT by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: neverdem

By no stretch of the imagination is it a goof up.

Anything shipped from one lab to another would be clearly marked with what it was. It would also be marked in some fashion saying whether it was something newly emergent and unidentified or something already known. It would also be marked on it's risk of contagion factor. It would also be marked on it's lethality factor.

If these, and others, are not the relevant items, then you put a lot of faith in complete idiots.


28 posted on 04/13/2005 2:24:28 AM PDT by djf
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To: neverdem

And let me emphasize I am not arguing with you personally, it's just that I trust these croutons even less than I trust doctors.

My dear wife, who had a thyroid problem and went to her doctor no less than five times a year, fell over dead from an aneurysm.

Here we are worried about democrat versus republican and some unelected moron who sits behind a desk and wants fame and fortune makes a decision that could kill millions.


29 posted on 04/13/2005 2:34:13 AM PDT by djf
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To: Free2BeMe

"Between Drilling to the bottom of the Earth's crust and disturbing Comet orbits, and now this, I tend to agree with you. They could care less about the rest of us billions, only thing that matters is doing research and amazing feats. They're lack of common sense is mind boggling and dangerous."



These idiots are the suits you see standing on the side of the road helplessly looking at their flat tire and calling AAA on their cell phones demanding help. No common sense at all. They need keepers IMHO. Very dangerous to have them running around loose.

Who will be held acountable for this endangering of millions of adults and childrens lives by their thoughtless and negligent actions, Hmmm? No one.


30 posted on 04/13/2005 2:37:42 AM PDT by 1ofmanyfree ((No drivers lisc.for illegal aliens! They want to vote here. Sure they just want insurance... !))
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To: rwfromkansas; Sterco

Two weeks passed from suffering from the nasty little monster roaming the plains.


31 posted on 04/13/2005 3:28:05 AM PDT by Crazieman (UESR: Union of European Socialist Republics)
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To: neverdem

NOW they decide to recall it......


32 posted on 04/13/2005 4:01:57 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Sterco

The trouble is that the defensive study of viruses and the way in which they can be artificially modified by enemies requires the same equipment and gives one the same skills as those who would use it effectively. Which is why you will never convince all the major powers that their rivals aren't ready to biowar them into submission.

The moment you have a detailed enough knowledge of the 1918 Flu pandemic to understand why it was so prolific/successful and successful, you have taken a major step to replicating it deliberately. ANd even if you don't you make it that much harder to keep the knowledge secret...grave dangers but probably unavoidable.


33 posted on 04/13/2005 5:44:12 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: rwfromkansas

We've had that nasty bug circulation here for months. It drops you down for at least four days, then hangs on for 2-3 weeks.

By the way, anybody know how these labs "lock down" the samples? Where do they go to be destroyed?


34 posted on 04/13/2005 5:49:35 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: ClaireSolt
Who sent it from where, and why doesn't it say?

Here's a brief explanation from the article:

The problem arose when a private company, Meridian Bioscience Inc. of Cincinnati, sent a panel of virus samples to about 3,700 laboratories, some in doctors' offices, to be tested as part of routine quality-control certification conducted by the College of American Pathologists. An additional 2,750 laboratories, all in the United States, received the samples as part of other certification processes and were asked to destroy them, CDC spokesman Dan Rutz said.

snip

35 posted on 04/13/2005 5:56:14 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: sarasota

I've been doing some computer consulting work for a large hospital over the last couple of months. The office they gave me to work in is right next to the lab. I think I want a new office!

Greg


36 posted on 04/13/2005 5:57:32 AM PDT by gregwest
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To: neverdem
Not to worry.

Our government will protect us from harm.

37 posted on 04/13/2005 6:08:10 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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To: JesseHousman; neverdem; xzins
Our government will protect us from harm

IMO they just did.

38 posted on 04/13/2005 11:29:32 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
As one Doctor to another, our government has known about this for some time now. In fact it's been a matter of months. Why hasn't the problem of the errant flu germs been resolved by now?

One would think that it would be a simple matter to have rounded up all the vials that stupidity caused to be shipped to the various laboratories.

39 posted on 04/13/2005 12:12:06 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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To: JesseHousman; neverdem; xzins; Calpernia; the_doc

This episode appears to be a replay of this October surprise:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1264257/posts

"...The bacteria -- which tainted about half of the nation's flu vaccine supply -- was once considered a harmless microbe. But a 1950 experiment, in which a ship off the San Francisco coast let loose clouds of Serratia marcescens to test whether an enemy could launch a biological warfare attack from a distance, is now suspected of causing a cluster of hard-to-treat infections..."

I think we dodged a bullet.


40 posted on 04/13/2005 1:50:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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