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German ruling says Dresden was a holocaust
Telegraph ^ | 4-12-5 | Hannah Cleaver in Berlin

Posted on 04/12/2005 4:46:09 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: ozzymandus

Yes I do, would you wish a different outcome on these events? You use what you have as allies when you're against the wall. When one's starving the fly fisherman does not worry about wet or dry.


41 posted on 04/12/2005 6:00:02 PM PDT by Lurker 50001
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To: ozzymandus
No, I haven't read it, but I've read a review . . . Sounds like . . .

Mmmm hmmm.

42 posted on 04/12/2005 6:00:14 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Lion in Winter

Thank you!


43 posted on 04/12/2005 6:00:27 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: SJackson
May 7, 1945 German government issues unconditional surrender to Allied forces.

On August 6 and 9, 1945, the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by the first atomic bombs used in warfare.

The German people should thank God, and the allied forces their army didn't hang on another 12 weeks.
44 posted on 04/12/2005 6:01:43 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: cicero's_son

And YOU are indefensibly a nazi apologist!


45 posted on 04/12/2005 6:02:32 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (LIFE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!)
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To: Michael.SF.
When a verb appears in another clause besides the first, it goes at the end.

"Es nimmt zwei, Tango zu tanzen."

46 posted on 04/12/2005 6:02:35 PM PDT by Styria
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To: IYAAYAS

"The German people should thank God, and the allied forces their army didn't hang on another 12 weeks."

Truer words never spoken.


47 posted on 04/12/2005 6:04:02 PM PDT by Lurker 50001
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To: Petronski

Hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of books I haven't read. Unlike you apparently. Can I assume you've read every book in the world? Sorry you can't accept an honest answer. I could have lied and claimed I read it.


48 posted on 04/12/2005 6:05:02 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Lion in Winter
Nice.

Just think about it: does hate make you into that which you hate?

Seeing your posts on this thread is evidence that it does.

49 posted on 04/12/2005 6:05:44 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: ozzymandus

Read the book ..... before you make false statements.


50 posted on 04/12/2005 6:06:17 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Yasotay

Show me a false statement I made.


51 posted on 04/12/2005 6:07:49 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Uh, the "blitz of London" is called the "blitz of London".

London didn't burn down.

The justifications for burning Dresden change from time to time, but so far no one has anything really convincing except maybe they didn't like the Dresdener's cousins in Indianapolis ~ maybe it was just Bomber Harris' way of "getting back at" Chenault or other Americans with an Indiana address.

The whole event is covered by the grandson of one of the former inhabitants, Kurt Vonnegut. He was there, on the ground. I don't think he particularly enjoyed it.

52 posted on 04/12/2005 6:08:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: G32

German surrendered before nukes were even invented!


53 posted on 04/12/2005 6:09:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ozzymandus

I did not claim that either you or I had read every book in the world. I just don't understand how you dismiss this book in the way that you have if you don't know the author and haven't read the book or even more than one review of it.

I suppose if it threatens your world view, you might want to avoid it.


54 posted on 04/12/2005 6:10:28 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: IYAAYAS
The German people should thank God, and the allied forces their army didn't hang on another 12 weeks

Very true.

55 posted on 04/12/2005 6:11:16 PM PDT by SJackson (You simply have to accept the fact that we are all corrupt-Mahmud Abbas to senior UN official, 1996)
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To: ozzymandus
Show me a false statement I made.

I've seen that book advertised. It's an attempt to excuse the terror-bombing of Dresden. Pretty low, IMHO.

56 posted on 04/12/2005 6:11:38 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Common Tator
Dresden was bombed because it was a college town. Churchill thought that if we killed a lot of German intellectuals they would be so mad at Hitler they might figure out a way to overthrow his regime. It backfired.

Dresden was bombed because of it's rail lines and it's ability to resupply their troops. The Germans had to be utterly destroyed. They had to lose the very notion of waging war...and they did.

They got their comeuppance.

57 posted on 04/12/2005 6:11:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Lurker 50001
You are absolutely correct. We were fighting such a evil country. They adored Hitler in Germany. Some folks here have absolutely no idea what it was like during WWII. We were in the fight for our entire way of life in America. Our freedom, ours lives!!

I know my brother killed a bunch of SS and other German soldiers and he said he felt like he was part of a vast American military that was literally the saving of the USA.

I know we did a lot of killing of commies in Korea but to me, it never felt like we were finished with the commies because they were still in power in other places in the world... you know the Soviet Union, China and so forth.

My brother said he felt like a REAL FORCE FOR EVIL was defeated when the German nazis were brought down to total defeat.

58 posted on 04/12/2005 6:12:04 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (LIFE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!)
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To: Lion in Winter

Inasmuch as the atom bomb was developed and used AFTER Germany surrendered, you'd probably hurt quite a few American occupation troops if you'd tried dropping nukes.


59 posted on 04/12/2005 6:12:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SJackson

War is Hell!


60 posted on 04/12/2005 6:13:33 PM PDT by RightWinger
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