Posted on 04/12/2005 1:40:09 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
Cid Martel of the Dutch Disease blog has kindly sent along this revealing translation of a Dutch story from Trouw. Cid explains: "A small Dutch Christian party called ChristenUnie (ChristianUnion) is trying to figure out how to deal with Muslims. Some feel Muslims are a threat, others think that Christians need to be open to people from other cultures. There was a debate recently between the party leader and the director of Milli Gorus. It started out fine but suddenly Haci Karacear, the director, dropped his mask. This is from a column which appeared in today’s Trouw newspaper by the excellent French-Dutch publicist Sylvain Ephimenco:"
Haci Karacaer was rather provocative. He hammered home that Europe has its roots in Islam. “Europe does not have Judeo-Christian roots. We gave them to you!” When they talked about religious education things got even more heated. “André, try to keep up with the facts. Demographics tell you that a school board can’t continue to proselytize. I’ll go as far as to say that the Christian identity of these schools doesn’t mean a damn thing.”
André must have been shocked. You think you do your Muslim brothers a favour by giving them an opportunity to build their own schools and suddenly they want to take over yours. Maybe he finally realized Milli Gorus’ strategy. Karacear has for years been towing the same line as the Swiss preacher Tariq Ramadan. Avoid conflicts, be friendly, consensual and oppose the segregation of Muslims. Because it’s their holy mission to Islamize Western society you can’t have ghettoes like Islamic schools. You don’t Islamize by locking yourself up, but by using secular or Christian structures and turning them upside down when the time comes. But maybe Karacaer stumbled and dropped his mask a bit too soon. By already playing the demographics card, annexing the Jewish-Christian roots and glaring at the ‘black’ confessional schools he might have woken up the ChristianUnion.
I hope so.
Avoid conflicts, be friendly, consensual and oppose the segregation of Muslims. Because it’s their holy mission to Islamize Western society you can’t have ghettoes like Islamic schools. You don’t Islamize by locking yourself up, but by using secular or Christian structures and turning them upside down when the time comes.
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Huh?
Holland was Christian 300 years before Muhammad raped his first toddler.
(By already playing the demographics card, annexing the Jewish-Christian roots and glaring at the ‘black’ confessional schools he might have woken up the ChristianUnion.)
Unfortunately there's hardly anything Christian in Europe anymore.
This post needs to be sent to the Cardinals now meeting in the Vatican. Our prayers need to be for a Pope that realizes that in one generation, the Vatican could be surrounded by a sea of Mosques.
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"Holland was Christian 300 years before Muhammad raped his first toddler."
See below the first 400 years after Christ in Britain:
To 400: The Roman era. 44 Roman conquest of Britain. Christianity arrives around this time. Glastonbury is inhabited during these years, and old tradition remembers Christians here.
50 Council of Jerusalem. Christianity is a separate religion, not a sect within Judaism.
64 (Italy) Nero's persecution of the church. Peter and Paul executed. Christianity is made illegal.
209 (Probable date) Execution of Alban, the first English martyr. Alban is a Roman soldier who offered shelter to a Christian missionary from Gaul. The place of his martyrdom later becomes St. Alban's.
312 (Italy) Constantine. Christianity becomes the official religion of the Roman Empire. Britons are largely Christianized.
314 Council of Arles. Britain sends three bishops, a priest, and a deacon.
325 Council of Nicea, probably attended by British. The Nicene creed and the council's decisions are accepted in Britain.
360 Julian the Apostate, Roman emperor, attempts to reinstitute paganism. This is openly flouted in Britain. The Mildenhall treasure is buried; it includes three spoons with the Chi-Rho monogram.
370+ Pagan Anglo-Saxons from Germany and Scandinavia begin to occupy Britain without resistance from the passive Britons. (Wales remains unconquered and Christian.) Anglo-Saxon culture characterized by pessimism and an emphasis on courage and hard work.
407 No Roman coins after this date have been found in Britain. The Britons are on their own.
410 The conquest of Britain is greatly accelerated when Britons under Vortigern invite Saxon mercenaries to occupy their country to keep order.
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Al Taqiyah.
Google the term. Study it. Know that it is part of islam's tactical arsenal.
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Already familiar with it. Also "kitman".
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Glad to see he did drop his mask. Problem is..they all wear them. Good catch!
The only thing with roots Islamists gave to Holland was a tulip (dulban in Turkish).
However, for more than 1O years Dutch media diseminates brazen Islamic lies about Bosnia and Kosovo and do Islammist bidding, so it is no wonder that Islamists feel at home in Nederlandistan.
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